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Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:24 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:16 pm
I don't understand why you would get into trouble either, it's not a crime to ask to delete a thread for someone else now is it?

He seemed to think -to use his words- that I was taking the piss. I thought it best not to pursue it after that.

It must have been how you worded it then. Or it could have been how it was interpreted. IDK..But thanks anyway.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:44 pm

Nick_A wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:12 pm DaM

What is wrong with you people? why the disingenuous attitude, are we incapable of communicating with one another openly and honestly?

Yes, as the cave creatures we are, honest open communication is not wanted regardless of all the fine speeches to the contrary. Most would never admit that the the greatest influence determining what we do is "prestige" That is why we are so distant from the cosmic man not caught up in the need for prestige but capable of a human perspective dedicated to opening to and reflecting objective human meaning and purpose. Einstein had the right idea but the human condition prevents its actualization.

The Einstein's and the Tesla's pass this way only once... often ignored like the elephant in the living room. The cave dwellers only see what they want to see, hear what they want to hear, and know what they want to know.

Those with eyes will see, those with ears will hear. Those with intuition will know.

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That is why it is foolish to fight the cave but instead support those who are beginning to see the light. From Plato's Cave allegory:

[Socrates] And if there were a contest, and he had to compete in measuring the shadows with the prisoners who had never moved out of the cave, while his sight was still weak, and before his eyes had become steady (and the time which would be needed to acquire this new habit of sight might be very considerable) would he not be ridiculous? Men would say of him that up he went and down he came without his eyes; and that it was better not even to think of ascending; and if any one tried to loose another and lead him up to the light, let them only catch the offender, and they would put him to death.

Those having seen the light have the potential to become cosmic man. Why allow their psyche to be crushed by dominant secularism worshiping itself? Help give them a chance regardless of the growls of the Beast.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:47 pm
It must have been how you worded it then.

Oh yes, it must have been my fault, that goes without saying.

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:04 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:47 pm
It must have been how you worded it then.

Oh yes, it must have been my fault, that goes without saying.

Remember, I also said it could have been how it was interpreted. It was no ones fault Harbal.

Words are crap, they can never describe feeling...feeling is of the heart, only the heart knows what is true and real.

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Nick is like an anti-advertisement for his metaphysics. Hurrah! You are helping your interlocutors murder more young spirits, Nick!

Enlightened people generally come off as magnanimous, generous, tolerant, spiritual; liberated souls. Nick is the opposite of all that.

People reading his posts will think, “If Nick’s metaphysics produces people like Nick, then I’m staying in the cave!”

It’s as if Coca-Cola started a new ad campaign: “Croak on Coke! Now, we’ve spiked it with rat poison!”

And no, Nick, no matter how much you try to co-opt him, Einstein and his views have nothing to do with you or yours.

I'm only here for the beer.
This, and I'm waiting for Mr or Mrs Blobby to appear...here...in the moment...with big breaths.

marjoram_blues wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:26 pm I'm only here for the beer.
This, and I'm waiting for Mr or Mrs Blobby to appear...here...in the moment...with big breaths.

Hi M...nice to see you again! Highlight of my week!

artisticsolution wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:41 pm

marjoram_blues wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:26 pm I'm only here for the beer.
This, and I'm waiting for Mr or Mrs Blobby to appear...here...in the moment...with big breaths.

Hi M...nice to see you again! Highlight of my week!

AS, so kind. I think ah luvs ya'

davidm wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:14 pm Nick is like an anti-advertisement for his metaphysics. Hurrah! You are helping your interlocutors murder more young spirits, Nick!

Enlightened people generally come off as magnanimous, generous, tolerant, spiritual; liberated souls. Nick is the opposite of all that.

People reading his posts will think, “If Nick’s metaphysics produces people like Nick, then I’m staying in the cave!”

Indoctrination would have you believe that...and it's fallen for.

Sometimes the spirit has to drag you through hell to get you to heaven.

Stay in the cave if you are afraid of your own light, afraid of getting overshadowed.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:56 pm

davidm wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:14 pm Nick is like an anti-advertisement for his metaphysics. Hurrah! You are helping your interlocutors murder more young spirits, Nick!

Enlightened people generally come off as magnanimous, generous, tolerant, spiritual; liberated souls. Nick is the opposite of all that.

People reading his posts will think, “If Nick’s metaphysics produces people like Nick, then I’m staying in the cave!”

Indoctrination would have you believe that...and it's fallen for.

Sometimes the spirit has to drag you through hell to get you to heaven.

Stay in the cave if you are afraid of your own light, afraid of getting overshadowed.

Yawn.

davidm wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:14 pm Nick is like an anti-advertisement for his metaphysics. Hurrah! You are helping your interlocutors murder more young spirits, Nick!

Enlightened people generally come off as magnanimous, generous, tolerant, spiritual; liberated souls. Nick is the opposite of all that.

People reading his posts will think, “If Nick’s metaphysics produces people like Nick, then I’m staying in the cave!”

It’s as if Coca-Cola started a new ad campaign: “Croak on Coke! Now, we’ve spiked it with rat poison!”

And no, Nick, no matter how much you try to co-opt him, Einstein and his views have nothing to do with you or yours.

Acrually it is the opposite. You will feel repulsed by the genuinely enlightened person (not me). You will be attracted to the con artist - the anti-Christ.

The only people who can give the impression of having risen to a higher place, who seem superior to ordinary human misery, are the people who resort to the aids of illusion, exaltation, fanaticism, to conceal the harshness of destiny from their own eyes. The man who does not wear the armor of the lie cannot experience force without being touched by it to the very soul. Grace can prevent this touch from corrupting him, but it cannot spare him the wound.
Simone Weil, The Iliad, or the Poem of Force,

You are attracted to the lie; appearance over substance. Only a few will be attracted to the truth of the human condition in relation to the cave man's potential to become the cosmic man. The lie which secularism does its best to perpetuate is too strong.

If you insist on being conned I'll initiate Uncle Nick's church of wonderfulness just for you. We will have sermons every week telling you how wonderful you are. All this self verification will be yours for the small fee of $10,000 to start you on the path leading to the feeling of wonderfulness. Why Scientology when you can join Uncle Nick's Church of Wonderfulness?

Nick_A wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:43 pm Why Scientology when you can join Uncle Nick's Church of Wonderfulness?

Sign me up, uncle Nick, you're entertaining enough in print, seeing you making an utter pudding of yourself live would be a joy to behold.

Nick_A wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:43 pm
You are attracted to the lie; appearance over substance. Only a few will be attracted to the truth of the human condition in relation to the cave man's potential to become the cosmic man.

You mean the Cosmic Man who boasts about pinching women's asses without their consent and votes for Cheeto Benito (Donald Drumpf)?

Yeah, Nicky, we all aspire to your enlightenment!

davidm wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:06 pm
You mean the Cosmic Man who boasts about pinching women's asses

To be fair, I don't think he actually does it, he just thinks about it a lot.

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:09 pm

davidm wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:06 pm
You mean the Cosmic Man who boasts about pinching women's asses

To be fair, I don't think he actually does it, he just thinks about it a lot.

As a working musician I play friendly lounges. Many of us regulars know each other and it is a sign of affection for me to lightly pinch the behind of a female friend. I have been pinched many times and have yet to complain to the politically correct. So you might say I am delightfully guilty both as a pincher and pinchee.