Philosophy Now Forum

bobevenson wrote:Let's just keep it simple, say for a given year.

That's a stupid move. Read the above, think this time, then try again.

bobevenson wrote:Forget about how things are made or the utilization of equipment. It doesn't matter if everything is made by hand. The only thing that counts is the potential intrinsic market value of production compared to the actual intrinsic market value of production in a free market economy.

If you keep things that vague the answer is infinity and your formula is broken.

You are still missing the point by the way. The markets you refer to have a capacity to return an amount of value over the period of time you define as t. That is what PVP is in your formula. AVP in your formula represents the actual rate, which is a proportion of the potential rate. A proportion of the capacity. It is capacity utilisation. That is still all your theory amounts to and none of your desperate attempts to spin will change that.

It does matter if everything is made by hand by the way. The thing that makes them more efficient than non-free markets is the efficient allocation of both capital and labour. You are trying to ignore both and in so doing you are misunderstanding markets entirely.

bobevenson wrote:I'm sorry, but talking to you on this subject is like talking to the wall or the man in the moon.

That's because he appears to know what he's talking about, economically speaking, and you don't.

bobevenson wrote:I'm sorry, but talking to you on this subject is like talking to the wall or the man in the moon.

It must be hard to tell yourself you are a winner 10 times a day when all the time in between is spent being Bob.

Arising_uk wrote:

bobevenson wrote:I'm sorry, but talking to you on this subject is like talking to the wall or the man in the moon.

That's because he appears to know what he's talking about, economically speaking, and you don't.

Please, a person who can't even figure out how to play Ouzo, the simplest game in the world, is in no position to judge anybody's economic analysis.

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Ah, you got it wrong. they DO know how to play Ouzo...THAT'S why they AREN'T playing OUZO.


Matter-of-fact NO ONE, other than you, is playing OUZO.


OUZO = ASININE waste of time. BOOOORING.






Actually, as punishment - I AM DEMANDING THAT YOU PLAY OUZO - NOW!


BEFORE you post here again YOU PLAY OUZO!!!






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bobevenson to FlashDangerpants wrote:Please,

"...stop, because I'm feeling the heat."

bobevenson to FlashDangerpants wrote:Let's just keep it simple,

"...we don't need facts and details, just my fantasies."

bobevenson to FlashDangerpants wrote:all I can think of is how absolutely stupid your entire line of reasoning has been.

"...because I don't dare think that there's any valid or greater reasoning beyond my own."

bobevenson to FlashDangerpants wrote:I'm sorry, but talking to you on this subject is like talking to the wall or the man in the moon.

"because that's what I must imagine you to be in order to sustain my own impenetrable and detached denial."

bobevenson to Arising_uk wrote:Please, a person who can't even figure out how to play Ouzo, the simplest game in the world, is in no position to judge anybody's economic analysis.

Ah yes... and here we descend fully back into the babbling madness... where it is safest. A place where no one else can touch... nor know more.

bobevenson wrote:Look, I'm a divinely inspired prophet on all things spiritual, political and economic, OK?

And you must chant it over and over for all to see/hear since you've been unable to demonstrate it in any other way.

bobevenson wrote:I didn't ask for the job.

You didn't have to because you created it.

bobevenson wrote:Listen, honey, I've presented my prophetic credentials, and if you want to challenge them, singly or in total, go right ahead and make my day!

How does one challenge something that doesn't exist (because it is only the deluded product of someone's warped mind)?

bobevenson wrote:Look, I'm a divinely inspired prophet on all things spiritual, political and economic, OK? I didn't ask for the job.

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