Re: U.S. Government-sanctioned Slavery
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:30 pm
People who question the words of a prophet amuse me in a pathetic sort of way.
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bobevenson wrote:People who question the words of a prophet amuse me in a pathetic sort of way.
No, I'm sorry, but simply being paid for involuntary servitude does not nullify it as slavery. I hope you're not suggesting that 10 cents an hour gets the government off the hook. And the proposition that anybody owes the country for being the so-called land of the free is utter nonsense. The bottom line is that people don't want to pay the free-market price for military personnel, and would rather spend their money at the beach.tectuctitlay wrote:The draft (as well as other forms of legally enforced government service, such as jury duty) is not "slavery" per say, because you're being paid for your labor. It is, however, forced servitude, which violates both the letter and the spirit of the 13th Amendment.
The only problem with THAT argument though is that the Supreme court has ruled on several occasions that this form of forced servitude does not violate the 13th Amendment, because military service is a duty that we all "owe" the state... So much for "The Home of the Free", I guess.
$8-$11 for the standard grunt grade, plus medical treatment I assume and full board and lodging.bobevenson wrote:No, I'm sorry, but simply being paid for involuntary servitude does not nullify it as slavery. I hope you're not suggesting that 10 cents an hour gets the government off the hook. ...
Yes you are right. You should come and live in England - a free country.bobevenson wrote:Congress is now considering forcing women to register for selective service (the military draft system) under penalty of law instead of eliminating selective service all together. This is one of the most oppressive, despotic and tyrannical laws ever devised by the U.S. government.
Yeah, so your criminal government can steal money out of my pocket to give to the likes of you!Hobbes' Choice wrote:Yes you are right. You should come and live in England - a free country.bobevenson wrote:Congress is now considering forcing women to register for selective service (the military draft system) under penalty of law instead of eliminating selective service all together. This is one of the most oppressive, despotic and tyrannical laws ever devised by the U.S. government.
By robbing the government.Arising_uk wrote:How do you get your money bob?
Great! So where does it come from?bobevenson wrote:I guarantee you that I don't get my money by stealing it like socialist governments do.
Bob will never give you a straight answer. He likes to fantasize.Lacewing wrote:Great! So where does it come from?bobevenson wrote:I guarantee you that I don't get my money by stealing it like socialist governments do.
And evade truth.Philosophy Explorer wrote:Bob will never give you a straight answer. He likes to fantasize.