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Obvious Leo wrote:

Dontaskme wrote:I've been consistent from the start

You've been consistent in that you've maintained your extreme form of dualism from the outset and you've also been consistent in that you've resolutely declined to advance an argument in favour of it. Preachers are ten a penny but philosophers are few so the fact that you've found a kindred spirit in Bill is unsurprising. However in all likelihood you'd grow out of your certainties if you took the trouble to acquaint yourself with the vast compendium of literature available which examines the myth of the Cartesian theatre you're expounding.

Yes, I agree about the myth.

So your point is?

Dontaskme wrote:So your point is?

The point is that you're advancing a homunculus hypothesis without even realising that that's what you're doing.

True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing.

True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing.

Dontaskme wrote:I'm not here to argue with people

Then you don't belong in a philosophy forum. There are no shortage of internet platforms where you can clamber onto your soap-box and bellow your eternal truths to the world without being required to substantiate them with a well-reasoned argument. This is not one of them.

Irrelevant!

True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing.

Leo, now look what you've done.

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You are a breath of fresh air. Perhaps, too intense, too honest for this site at this moment.

Good luck to you. I will miss your insight...





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Dontaskme wrote:...not the place to spread eternal truths

There are eternal truths???

Dontaskme wrote:...no wonder Bill has problems communicating with people.

No, I don't think that's it.

Lacewing wrote:Leo, now look what you've done.

What can I say? I'm guilty as charged for daring to suggest that the philosophical discourse is bound by both rights and obligations. I'm firmly of the view that anybody should have the right to say whatever they bloody well like but I'm equally of view that anybody else has the right to challenge them on any statement and insist that they support it with reasoned argument. Since the Bobs, Bills and mandens of this world consistently refuse to honour this obligation they therefore fully deserve whatever contempt comes their way as a consequence.

Dontaskme. Your username is presciently chosen because I doubt that anybody ever will.

Lacewing wrote: There are eternal truths???

No, there are no eternal truths.

True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing.

True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing.

Dontaskme wrote:There are multi level dimensions to consciousness ...so if you are interested you can google multidimensional consciousness. ...

Took a goggle, fairly standard new-age theory of mind and metaphysics and as such of little interest to me thanks.

Human consciousness is three-dimensional.

You mean consciousness have length, breath and height? Can you show me one of these?

Aware of itself as an individual human, and for this self-aware organism to survive it needs to feed itself, build a shelter, and cover it's body in clothing, the human can do many crafts, this is known as conscious co-creating.

Sorry you're confusing me? What is this 'it' that is aware of 'itself'' as a human being and if 'it' is what is 'it's' awareness of 'itself'?

It's an aspect of consciousness that is self-aware.

You're ging to have to define this 'consciousness' as you appear to have a self-aware self-aware entity?

There is no human being being self-aware, there's only the self which is consciousness self aware-in itself. ...

What is this 'self'?

Human is mental construct, it's a thought. ...

No, its a body with senses in an external world and thanks to there being two of them with language there is thinking.

The perceiver seer, thought of 'I' is invisible. What is seen is itself, it sees the manifestation of itself as and through it's manifestation which is the body, or the world of things. .... The physical body is the instrument through which light source energy plays it's song, every manifest creature is singing their own unique song.

So light is self-aware?

Life is generally unconscious functioning on automatic pilot operating our bodies without our conscious control, like breathing, heart beat and pumping blood around the veins. ...

There is no 'Life', you are reifying a concept based upon the obseravtion that there are living things.

More interestingly, is a conscious dimension that enables water to defy gravity and travel up from the ground to the very top of a tree.

I take it Biology was not your strong point?
https://www.quora.com/How-do-trees-carr ... at-the-top