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Bob. Once you start hearing the voices you should bolt the doors and hide. It's only a matter of time before the smiling men in white coats will come knocking on the door to fit you out for the backwards jacket and then it's all downhill from there. The ouzo will not save you.

Obvious Leo wrote:Bob. Once you start hearing the voices you should bolt the doors and hide. It's only a matter of time before the smiling men in white coats will come knocking on the door to fit you out for the backwards jacket and then it's all downhill from there. The ouzo will not save you.

Again, how is my story fucked up? As I mentioned, the only mystical things that took place related exclusively to Ouzo. Since in your infinite wisdom you don't even accept the slightest possibility of prophecy, defined as a divinely inspired message, you certainly would have also consigned John on the isle of Patmos to the nearest clinic, if in fact there had been one.

To be fair, I once had a vision after drinking ouzo!

raw_thought wrote:To be fair, I once had a vision after drinking ouzo!

Interesting, I don't need to drink Ouzo to have visions, I just stop taking my meds.

thedoc wrote:I don't need to drink Ouzo to have visions.

No, you play Ouzo, but drink ouzo.

attofishpi wrote:

Briancrc wrote:

attofishpi wrote: I have known 'God' exists since 1997. In my OP i stated 5 characteristics of this entity that i know via having been 'tested' and testing it back.

Okay, I went back to your first post and read it. I have a couple questions. First, was there a particular experience you had that prompted your tests? Second, where did this or your other experiences leave you in your level of conviction if 0% is you are absolutely sure there is no God and 100% is you are absolutely sure there is? Thanks

1. There were countless experiences at the time (and since), not any one in particular.
2. I am left with 100% conviction that a 'God' exists.

It seems like symbolism and metaphor are important in your view of God. Is this what led to your total conviction?

bobevenson wrote:

Obvious Leo wrote:Bob. Once you start hearing the voices you should bolt the doors and hide. It's only a matter of time before the smiling men in white coats will come knocking on the door to fit you out for the backwards jacket and then it's all downhill from there. The ouzo will not save you.

Again, how is my story fucked up? As I mentioned, the only mystical things that took place related exclusively to Ouzo. Since in your infinite wisdom you don't even accept the slightest possibility of prophecy, defined as a divinely inspired message, you certainly would have also consigned John on the isle of Patmos to the nearest clinic, if in fact there had been one.

I would believe in a prophet if you you explain to me why God needs a prophet in the first place.

sthitapragya wrote:

bobevenson wrote:

Obvious Leo wrote:Bob. Once you start hearing the voices you should bolt the doors and hide. It's only a matter of time before the smiling men in white coats will come knocking on the door to fit you out for the backwards jacket and then it's all downhill from there. The ouzo will not save you.

Again, how is my story fucked up? As I mentioned, the only mystical things that took place related exclusively to Ouzo. Since in your infinite wisdom you don't even accept the slightest possibility of prophecy, defined as a divinely inspired message, you certainly would have also consigned John on the isle of Patmos to the nearest clinic, if in fact there had been one.

I would believe in a prophet if you explain to me why God needs a prophet in the first place.

Well, since God himself does not tamper with the universe, I guess he left it to John on the isle of Patmos and me to do the tampering.

bobevenson wrote:

sthitapragya wrote: I would believe in a prophet if you explain to me why God needs a prophet in the first place.

Well, since God himself does not tamper with the universe, I guess he left it to John on the isle of Patmos and me to do the tampering.

And that is my whole point. Why does he not do it himself? Take your case. You claim you are a prophet. Most people laugh at you. The point is not whether you are really a prophet or not. The point is because people do not take you seriously, God's message does not get transmitted properly. That is inefficient. So why does God do that? Why does he choose an inefficient system which is at a real risk of failing to get his message across to the whole world, when he can just as easily do it himself much more efficiently, quickly and with devastating effect?

sthitapragya wrote:Why does he not do it himself?

Good question. And why pick such unlikely idiots for his prophets? Why do UFOs only appear to drunken morons in the duelling banjoes country out the back of nowhere? The lord works in mysterious ways.

Briancrc wrote:

attofishpi wrote:

Briancrc wrote:Okay, I went back to your first post and read it. I have a couple questions. First, was there a particular experience you had that prompted your tests? Second, where did this or your other experiences leave you in your level of conviction if 0% is you are absolutely sure there is no God and 100% is you are absolutely sure there is? Thanks

1. There were countless experiences at the time (and since), not any one in particular.
2. I am left with 100% conviction that a 'God' exists.

It seems like symbolism and metaphor are important in your view of God. Is this what led to your total conviction?

The symbolism and metaphor if you want to call it that, came after i was made aware of its existence. I viewed the world from a different angle and saw anomalies that were too remote to be mere coincidence (in my opinion).

bobevenson wrote:Sorry, but neither of you are open-minded, and are unable to even relate to the concept of prophecy. Why don't you address just a single facet of my prophetic certification: how do you explain how I was able to discover the origin of Cincinnati's Queen City name in 20 minutes, something the rest of the world couldn't discover in 170 years, connecting Cincinnati to ancient Rome in the book of Revelation.

It does not matter. Why does God need a prophet at all? He could have told us the same thing.