- What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow
Out of this stoney rubbish? Son of man,
You cannot say, or guess, for you know only
A heap of broken images, where the sun beats,
And the dead tree gives no shelter, the cricket no relief,
And the dry stone no sound of water.
---TS Eliot, The Waste Land.
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Gustav, speaking in the third person of himself, writes:
There are a few elements to Gustav's interest and activity. He will make an effort to clarify though he has discovered, against his desire, that this particular thread and possibly this particular forum, is not one where his desired 'conversation' can occur and develop.
1) Everything that Gustav writes is, as he says, 'tentative'. Gustav starts from this basic position: 'the World' (which means 'our world') is in the grip of nihilism. Nihilism is a complex term and a complex state of being. It is even hard to define it because different philosophers define it differently and some actually understand it as a starting point for maturity. Without some grasp of what 'nihilism' is and importantly what it means for individuals, i.e. what it
DOES to individuals, it is probable that one would be able to understand 'where Gustav is coming from'. But in the most simple terms let us say that 'nihilism' is the outcome of man's penetration into known and tangible reality, or
knowable and tangible reality. It is in this sense becoming aware of the 'prison camp' nature of material restrictions, the penetration into matter in the 'sublunary world'. This encompasses---and this is important---a certain 'style' of thinking that proceeds from the 'scientific'. It is 'rationalistic', analytical, but also distinctly limited if only because it possesses no tools to understand all previous means of organizing perception about 'reality'. In this sense it functions as a 'cutting tool' and shears off from man his contact and interaction with 'the ineffable'. You could say 'metaphysical' and also 'transcendental', you could also say 'God' or 'Spirit' or 'connection to a Whole' and also to 'Meaning'. Even to
establish this base requires, as Gustav understands it, about a month of study. But this issue, that of 'nihilism' and the distraught and confused condition it evokes in people (true, this is Gustav's opinion) is a 'very real issue' and indeed one of the most important issues of our age.
2) 'Christianity' is rife with imperfections and cannot ever be simply accepted at face value. Gustav is not at all in favor of 'fundamentalism' or 'blind faith' and condemns it in religious believers. Fundamentalism as such is the end of what can rightly be called 'true religion' and the first step toward nihilism:
et sic sequitur. And yet he makes an odd claim: He says that the same or similar sort of fundamentalism operates
outside of the specifically religious domain. Religious fundamentalism and 'rigid thinking' seems just to 'jump tracks' and Gustav is under the impression that the same 'style' of thinking functions, continues to function, among apparently non-religious sorts. He notes that atheist and theist lock horns in mortal battle but that, often, they operate within a very similar, closed-loop, thinking system. Gustav makes this assertion, true, but has not been able to adequately 'research' it. It is just a matter of his opinion at this time. But Gustav feels that both approaches, both forms of 'fundamentalistic thinking', actually miss the point and they [seem] to become merely a low-level and quite meaningless argument---a battle, a fight, a war---among low-level intellects, amid 'bad thinkers', certainly 'non-creative thinkers' when the Real Conversation occurs and must occur on another, superior level. It is a conversation that cannot be engaged in by 'just anybody' but requires seriousness of commitment and personal investment. The issue of 'personal investment' is paramount in all Gustav's discourse (Gustav tosses in pretentious academic terms like this all the time). Gustav maintains that 'You cannot really know life and this existence intellectually or academically, you can only
REALLY know life by living it, by being in it with another level of commitment'. Gustav maintains that 'spiritual life' is not just 'organizing perception intellectually' but requires a 'jumping in with both feet'. Because this is so, and because people generally have very different aptitudes and needs and desires, he knows that only a person who has (lives) a spiritual life can be a conversant in the conversation about spiritual life. True, you could gain a great deal of academic knowledge about 'the varieties of religious experience' but it really wouldn't be knowledge---knowledge as Gustav would define it---about 'spirituality'. It is easy to see what he means by substituting other examples. You cannot know what it is to be a mountain climber or a diver just by reading the accounts. The one who really knows what climbing and diving are about are those who have done it. (Etc., etc.) This is really just an intuitive argument accessible to anyone.
3) Anyone who actually engages in spiritual life knows what Gustav is talking about. This engagement is with the 'soul'. That is, the body, the mind, the feelings, the intelligence. In short the totality of the person within his 'incarnated existence'. Why does Gustav toss in this term 'incarnated'? Because of what it literally alludes to: a life within a flesh vehicle and bound to all those limitations. Yes, but so what? Well, it is a huge part of man's work to 'carve out' conceptual and 'abstract worlds' and this is what Gustav calls 'our imagined world'. He alludes to the fact that tremendous things occur in that 'world' and so he places special emphasis on the term hoping, as it were, to stimulate others to think about it. This is the world of 'consciousness'. It is literally the 'space' where the miracle is occurring! The miracle of perception, of being, of understanding, of making choices about meaning, and essentially 'living on a higher plane' than mere brutality or [problematic word warning!] 'barbarism'. [And here he mentions, tiresomely and 'once again' the Mass Man and
blah blah blah on he goes...]
4) When one engages in 'spiritual life' in our modernity, in our climate of nihilism and within the 'deadness' of matter (and
meaning), one immediately is forced to 'reconnect' to all the previous associations and understandings, including symbolical and 'semiotic' representations, and it is Gustav's opinion that, as with CG Jung, all this material exists within us. Because our 'materialistic science' and the constraints of language and thought cannot venture into this realm (the mythic, the cosmological, the 'enchanted' if you will), we need another vocabulary. It is Gustav's opinion that, with some notable limitations, Jungian vocabulary offers many advantages. Essentially, when one engages 'spiritually' and internally, something rises to meet the call, if you will, to respond to the need...or necessity. Gustav knows this from experience. And Gustav knows many others for whom it is true. But be that as it may *something* arises from within our own being and 'guides' us on the 'spiritual path'. A path of orienting ourselves through our movement through our 'incarnated reality'.
5) 'Christianity' has deep and undeniable relevance here. In this sense 'Christianity', which includes both the most barbarous activity as well as the most sublime [man is always a terribly ambivalent or tortured being, nest-ce pas?] is psycho-material history of [Western] man's engagement in 'all these questions' for a long period of time. Gustav is always saying that 'our very personalities have been constructed through this process, in that cauldron, and this alludes to a whole
OTHER level of study to verify this'. [Myself, I am getting fu*#ing
TIRED of one level of study after another and I just want to
FUC#ING watch TeeVee and drink a beer...but no! I have 'another level of study' to undertake!].
Gustav deeply sympathizes, BTW. But he knows too that a path of 'true knowledge' is a difficult and demanding one. But the long and the short of it is that we can only really understand the 'deep relevance' of 'Christianity' (a catch-word for so very much!) if we take the time to really understand what it is and how it has functioned at the core of our social and cultural life. But to do that one must learn to see beyond the terribly irritating fundamentalists against whom we all have good reasons to take a resisting position.
6) Gustav's 'arguments' seem to function on two levels. One is the 'inner level'. He feels that when one engages internally, one will inevitably engage with all of our internal, 'unconscious' content. The so-called 'archetypal patterns' and such. This is very subjective 'internal' work and involves the 'psychological' and really our really rather intimate understanding of our being in this world. It connects back to the womb, to the issue and problem and trauma of birth, our entry-point into this bizarre drama we are all living. We are bound by our 'biological-social context' and often it is these influences that determine us. Ah! Except here enters in another level of determining factor: consciousness. Our connection to a higher world, a world of higher concept but then also [potentially?] to the transcendental. To influences from areas within Creation we may not know anything about. "There are mysteries here, Dear Children", says pompous Gustav, "which we might do well not to negate and merely sweep off the board". Gustav wishes to 'validate' those who identify as Christians because he understands what it means to be engaged 'spiritually' and innerly. This is the peculiarity of his position which seems to confuse.
- "Is he a fuc*ing goddammed xtrian or IS HE NOT!!! "
He laughs when he hears this, true, but not without concern for the problem. He might say: 'The problem for modern man is to move beyond binary systems of thinking and to think in more complete terms'. But saying this he is aware that most people will not be able to do this. They will 'remain trapped' within those binary thinking systems that drive their perception.
The other level has to do with the education of the conscious mind: the education of the 'ego' as it were. Without going into too much detail Gustav feels that we are rapidly losing our historical connection with Our Traditions. It will happen that we will end up in an intellectual world that functions more in programming language than in humanistic elements. And he will further say that the Christian traditions, in the historical sense, contain a very great deal of the 'better' stuff of which man is capable and indeed represent the better possibilities of man. Making this case to 'acidic' non-believers is a tough one, especially if they also lack a basic liberal education. But those who have such an education, and who recognize the value of it, will generally, though a little uneasily, accept this point. Unfortunately, in rejecting
a tout prix this terrible edifice of 'Christianity', one also cuts oneself away from 'the very best that Western man has conceived'. It is Gustav's opinion that the result of this 'cutting away' are tragic and will become evermore so as we 'progress' into a darkening future.
In the meantime, and no matter what, he is of the opinion that,
somehow, we need to hold to the possibilities of communication, affect, love when possible, concern for others, concern for other's suffering and loneliness, and all those really important things and attitudes which we are able to distinguish as 'conscious beings'. Even if one does not *identify* as a 'believing Christian', Gustav notes that all the things we value and hold to (especially when they are on the verge of being taken away or disappearing) are *essentially* Christian.
Gustav recognizes how deeply
DEEPLY contentious are all these issues. If only that, he wishes that others would see and understand just how much is at stake. And as is often the case he will throw in a
popular song by a unique musical band who brought forth odd and almost alchemical songs which, somehow, contain deep and relevant meanings. Why does he
DO this?!? some ask. Gustav does this because he is convinced that *meaning*, real and important meaning, is rarely assimilated intellectually. What we really understand and value is understood and appreciated by the totality of the self, and this is why music and art is relevant for us. 'The song that I sing' is a way of speaking about relationship to life, to existence, and sometimes our song is infectious. If it is 'the right song' it can literally move mountains (excuse the cheesy reference to scripture). And we no longer seem to know, at some basic, human level, just what is 'the right song'.