This is part that most interests me. But it is also the part that cannot really be discussed. People will come up right to the edge of it, but then will retreat away. Janoah is incapable of a deeper analysis -- for reasons of his own interest obviously. (This is how the power-dynamic defends itself),Janoah wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:09 pm And yet, you haven't answered the question, what bad did you see in Zionism?
And the Nazis, and those who went against the Chosen People before them, they are no longer with us, they are finished. And the same shameful fate for those who are now going against the Chosen People.
If we see the present situation in Israel now in these terms, then we see everything that Israel does -- conquering the land, herding the populations living there into so-called open-air prisons, and then also of beginning a genocide and stating that this is, more or less, the object -- then we will be forced to examine the tenets and character surrounding the God cited.
If we accept that this cited God stands behind, condones, and supports the diaspora Jewry re-conquest of Israel, then I say the character of this *God* is something largely terrible. What other terrible thing would He condone? Any power-grab could be listed. Any decimation of any people anywhere.
In fact, this is the guiding idea of the most radical of hardcore Jewish believers in Israel today. And that is why they do say, and it is widely discussed, that the Al Aqsa mosque will at some point be scraped off the present site and the Third Temple reconstructed there.
There, all the old animal sacrifices will be performed and, according to Talmudic lore, the Jewish people will *rule over the nations*. These are not fantasy plans, they are discussed and planned.
What has happened is that *providence* has intervened against these plans. And we will all see what the end result will be.
You see, you really have to see all of this in the widest context in order to understand how wacky it is.
But here is the thing: Just as Judaism misinterpreted the arrival of Jesus (according to the Gospel lore) and when God showed up He acted radically different from what they thought he would, so too is the possibility that everything now thought about the Jewish Messiah and the reconstruction of the temple is off the mark. Indeed even the justification for the reestablishment of Israel.
Remember: Jewish history is not over. It did not come to an end with Israel's founding.
If this is true, then when *God* manifests, or when history has its way with Israel in this present, the result may well be absolutely different from what is thought and what is believed.
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