Riots in the city of love

[Immanuel Can]

there has never been a time when europeans were united as you imply.

I didn't "imply" any such thing.

Here:

This is a very serious problem. Having abandoned the metaphysical grounding of the Jewish and Christian worldview, what is one's incentive for unifying in defense of something? There are no longer any values they believe in in common.

Oh, that's very, very minimal. It's not saying they even have to become Christians or Jews. It's just saying they have to recognizes the basic ethics that undergird Judeo-Christian political practices. It's quite possible for secularists and Atheists to exist in such a polity, because it doesn't require of them any creedal commitment at all...just a willingness to recognize the ethics to organize the polity, exactly as has been done for several centuries in the West.

I would suggest is commensurate with the number of europeans who have
Very well; since there are no criteria by which to distinguish

Real Christians

all wars are started by and fought between real Christians.

What do you mean, "There are no criteria?" Of course there are. And those criteria are so easy to find that I can't believe you don't know they exist. They're outlined in specific detail in the Bible itself, of course. There's no way that "Love thy neighbour as thyself" can be read as, "Kill thy neighbour." And it's not even sensible to say that somebody who does the opposite of what Christians are commanded to do is acting as a Christian. The most you could hope for there is to say that he's an errant and confused person who thinks he's a Christian but is not acting at all according to what Christians are obliged to do.

But don't you realize that you're making my case even stronger? If, within that miniscule subset of 4% the secular statistics reveal, the majority were not Christian at all (because you've forgotten the Hindu wars, the Buddhist wars...

Which I think we can safely ignore in the context of Europe.

We're not just talking about Europe. We're talking about the wars and purges worldwide, as caused by various ideologies.

You appear to be arguing on the assumption that I accept your criteria for "Real Christians", which I do not.

Do you accept the Biblical criteria? Because if you don't, then it explains why you imagine there are no criteria at all. It also explains why that's obviously not true, as well.

[Gary Childress]

That depends. Do you like totalitarianism?

No. A democratic form of the Chinese system would probably be more tolerable.

Well, there is no "Chinese system" but totalitarianism, right now. For them to become democratic would entail them not being Communist. So if you're prepared to see them abandon their Socialist commitments, then maybe that can happen. And it would be great if it did.

If you say so, Mr. expert.

[Immanuel Can]

No. A democratic form of the Chinese system would probably be more tolerable.

Well, there is no "Chinese system" but totalitarianism, right now. For them to become democratic would entail them not being Communist. So if you're prepared to see them abandon their Socialist commitments, then maybe that can happen. And it would be great if it did.

If you say so, Mr. expert.

Not because I say so. Because it's verifiably true.

[Immanuel Can]

France, Spain, Belgium, England, Scotland, and now Italy...

There's no more way to tell the story that this is about underfunding in French education any more. So what's really going on? Who's funding these riots, and spreading them?

Still lots of evidence of Hamas and Communist flags...not much sign of anything else.