US and Israel attack Iran

[seeds]

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“...Houston, we have a problem…”

And the problem is that the propensity to turn a blind eye to the cruel and monstrous actions of the American government is so deeply baked-in to the fabric of America’s collective psyche that it is even showing itself to be present in the programming of the modern AI chatbots.

Indeed, the AIs...

(or at least the free ones that I have been using on Google)

...have been programmed to never be allowed to create any images that might even “loosely depict” the actual horrors and atrocities that America has done around the globe over the last several decades.

And to prove that, have a gander at the following (short) conversation I just had with Google AI:

Me:
Please create for me a true-to-scale image of life-size dolls (some whole and some in pieces) that represent the actual sizes of little human girls ranging in ages from 7-years-old to 12-years-old, all laying on their sides in 3 separate piles that each contain 50 of these life-size dolls, and have the 3 piles positioned in the immediate front area of the entrance to a building that looks like the U.S. White House.

Google AI:
I cannot fulfill this request. I am unable to generate images that depict fragmented child-like figures or scenes that evoke graphic violence.

Me:
The image does not need to imply that any violence has taken place. Just show me what 3 piles of life-size "plastic dolls" (50 dolls per pile) would look like in actual scale relative to the entrance of a building that resembles the white house.

Google AI:
I cannot fulfill this request. I am unable to generate images that depict large quantities of human-like or child-like figures, including dolls, piled together or fragmented in front of government buildings.

Needless to say, if it is obviously impossible (not to mention, morally unethical) to take the real 150 little Iranian school girls that Trump recently slaughtered and pile them in front of the White House,...

...then the very least we should be able to do is to have a visual representation of what the piles of dismembered and rotting corpses of those little girls would look like (and smell like) to Trump if he had to witness - up close and personal - the results of his decisions.

But no, we must never - ever - be allowed to even picture our murderous crimes, lest it causes us to, perhaps, “wake up” and realize what evil freakin’ monsters we are.
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[Janoah]

The school is located practically on the territory of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps..

[Walker]

The school is located practically on the territory of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps..

Imagine using hospitals and children as human shields to protect missiles from the reckoning. Monstrous.

Now imagine Islamists using the entire population of a country as human shields to protect their power.

[Janoah]

The school is located practically on the territory of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps..

Imagine using hospitals and children as human shields to protect missiles from the reckoning. Monstrous.

Now imagine Islamists using the entire population of a country as human shields to protect their power.

In reality, children are a "demographic bomb" for them.
They say openly that they are sure that by giving birth to more children than Europeans, they will suppress them.
A completely peaceful jihad, according to the rules of democracy, which they play along with.

[promethean75]

"Imagine using hospitals and children as human shields to protect missiles from the reckoning. Monstrous."

I don't even wanna think about it,.Walker. it's worse than you say, even. One team in that war is actually firing missles at hospitals and schools. I think they may be tryna hit the human shields or something.

[Walker]

"Imagine using hospitals and children as human shields to protect missiles from the reckoning. Monstrous."

I don't even wanna think about it,.Walker. it's worse than you say, even. One team in that war is actually firing missles at hospitals and schools. I think they may be tryna hit the human shields or something.

More likely, to disable the killing machines that were decorated with the little children who had no choice, because of where they were placed during a time of war, maybe even chained to their desks. After all, what monstrous parents would voluntarily place their children there? Perhaps the penalty for not putting them there, enforced by the Islamists, was more certain.

[mickthinks]

The school is located practically on the territory of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps..

Imagine using hospitals and children as human shields to protect missiles from the reckoning. Monstrous.

Now imagine Islamists using the entire population of a country as human shields to protect their power.

That photo says a lot about Hegseth’s criminal targetting.

It’s hard to believe the school was hit accidentally because it was too near the military target, when the only structures in the military target that were directly struck were not the ones nearest the school.

Now imagine being Walker and not knowing a war crime when you see it.

[phyllo]

Imagine rationalizing the killing of children.

[Walker]

Suddenly, the meaning of the phrase, "War is Hell," begins to dawn for those who never knew before.

Of course, that phrase is from the days when the number killed in a WWII battle, or those killed in the carpet bombing of a city, was far greater than the total number of civilians killed in Iran by the war, and the number of civilians killed in the Iranian reckoning is a number far less than the number of young Iranian protesters killed by their own government, for protesting.

WWII was before no boots on the ground became the mantra, and before the three layer defensive dome protecting Israel, which otherwise would have been wiped off the map by now, by Iran and proxies.

Before Obama showed the ME how it's done, with drones.

Reckoning is hell.

[Walker]

The school is located practically on the territory of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps..

Imagine using hospitals and children as human shields to protect missiles from the reckoning. Monstrous.

Now imagine Islamists using the entire population of a country as human shields to protect their power.

In reality, children are a "demographic bomb" for them.
They say openly that they are sure that by giving birth to more children than Europeans, they will suppress them.
A completely peaceful jihad, according to the rules of democracy, which they play along with.

That is the long game and always has been. Now, it's possible in a world where dreams can come true and words are reality.

It’s surprising how simple cultural repetitions, such as in this link, heaped upon the unsuspecting can influence even the philosophies that folks cling to. The message need not be at all rational.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNnFFKv ... rt_radio=1

[seeds]

"Imagine using hospitals and children as human shields to protect missiles from the reckoning. Monstrous."

I don't even wanna think about it,.Walker. it's worse than you say, even. One team in that war is actually firing missles at hospitals and schools. I think they may be tryna hit the human shields or something.

More likely, to disable the killing machines that were decorated with the little children who had no choice, because of where they were placed during a time of war, maybe even chained to their desks. After all, what monstrous parents would voluntarily place their children there? Perhaps the penalty for not putting them there, enforced by the Islamists, was more certain.

I could be wrong,...

...but I think the question that our homeboy "Notorious Thug P" is posing is "...who are the real monsters in this scenario?..."

Is it those who might knowingly be putting children in harm's way?

...or...

Is it those who are actually killing the children via the cowardly (and blind) method of conducting warfare as if it were a video game where one can destroy targets on a television monitor located in a safe and secure location --> perhaps hundreds of miles away from the action,...

...all while functioning under the codified directive that a certain amount of "collateral damage" is perfectly acceptable?

Let's ask the 20-foot-tall pile of the bits and pieces of the 150 dead little Iranian schoolgirls who they think the real monsters might be?

Anyway, just out of curiosity, I brought up the issue of "collateral damage" with Google AI...

Me:
Is there an unspoken (yet codified) rule in American military methods and procedures that suggests that a certain amount of "collateral damage" is acceptable as long as the primary target is destroyed?

Google AI:
No, it is not an unspoken rule; rather, it is a highly formalized, codified, and legally binding principle known as the Principle of Proportionality under the Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC).

Far from being an informal understanding, the United States military explicitly integrates this rule into its official manuals, targeting procedures, and computer-modeled frameworks.

Me:
Just to be clear, the term "collateral damage" is basically a "euphemism" for the unintended deaths of innocent civilians who just so happen to be near the intended target. Is that correct?

Google AI:
Yes, that is correct. Linguistically and politically, "collateral damage" is widely recognized as a classic euphemism designed to soften the emotional and ethical impact of what it actually describes: the killing and wounding of innocent civilians and the destruction of their property.

So, you see, when Trump finally drops those atomic bombs on the intended target --> the nation of Iran,...

...then, according to the very code of conduct inscribed in the operational manuals of the American military, not only can the deaths of perhaps millions of innocent men, women, and children be written off as being an unavoidable (yet acceptable) incident of "collateral damage",...

...but, according to Janoah and Walker, it can also be blamed on those horrible Iranian terrorists who used the entire population of Iran as "human shields."
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[Impenitent]

Trump isn't going to nuke Iran, but when he finally decides to finish the job...

-Imp

[FlashDangerpants]

Trump isn't going to nuke Iran, but when he finally decides to finish the job...

-Imp

He'll what? He doesn't know, you don't know, your bombed out supply bases don't have the answer either.

He is an idiot who tried to win a war on vibes instead of an actual plan and now you are stuck in a doom spiral with him because you are in an abusive relationship with a demagogue and you are too stupid to see it.

On Jan 21st, it becomes time to exercise the 25th Amendment. Or just let cholesterol finish him off. One of those two things is what it will take to end this war without upgrading from blatant war crimes to crimes against humanity.

[Walker]

Now imagine being Walker and not knowing a war crime when you see it.

Question to AI:
Is launching missiles from a functional school or hospital a war crime?

AI answser:
Yes, launching missiles from a functional school or hospital constitutes a war crime, as it violates international humanitarian law by using civilian objects for military purposes, which endangers civilians. This is particularly relevant under the Geneva Conventions, which protect such facilities from being targeted.

Looks like mickthinks is wrong ... yet again.

I could be wrong,...

Geneva says, yes, you are.
Looks like phyllo and Flashdangerpants, too.

How can so many philosophers with so much time to check the facts, be wrong?
Must be an agenda going on.

[phyllo]

Question to AI:
Is launching missiles from a functional school or hospital a war crime?

AI answser:
Yes, launching missiles from a functional school or hospital constitutes a war crime, as it violates international humanitarian law by using civilian objects for military purposes, which endangers civilians. This is particularly relevant under the Geneva Conventions, which protect such facilities from being targeted.

Fascinating.

But there were no Iranian missiles launched from the Minab school. There were no Iranian missiles on the premises of the school.

Additionally, the adjacent IRGC compound was no longer being used by the military.

The Guardian determined there was no indication that the building served a military purpose and found that the adjacent compound buildings were a medical clinic and a pharmacy,[32] the former of which was walled off from the compound between 2022 and 2023.[27] Other buildings in the immediate surroundings—some of which were also hit—were also civilian, including a clinic, cultural center, supermarket, car wash, and café.[11][14] The clinic had been inaugurated in January 2025 by then IRGC commander-in-chief, Major General Hossein Salami.[30] Furthermore, the compound's four military security posts had been removed by 2016.[24] According to Minab's mayor, the compound had been closed for about 15 years and all military personnel had moved out.[9] The school and adjacent civilian facilities also had a rich online presence through its website and social media.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack

This has been investigated by multiple independent organizations.

My "agenda" is the truth.