Existence Is Infinite
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The philosophy presented is a standalone foundational ontology. It isn’t a formal academic paper, however, it is a coherent and functional framework capable of accommodating various worldviews while maintaining ontological integrity.
The ontology is practical and accessible, it provides parameters to be employed by the individual directly as opposed to being confined exclusively to academic circles.
The philosophy connects epistemology and ontology while addressing their distinctions. It escapes the circularity of abstraction by grounding terms in concrete, real world examples.
The intent is not to dictate specifics of systems but to articulate an ontology or general framework in which systems can be understood.
The language and terms are accessible and intuitive. They are approachable and applicable. The definition of existence turns the discussion into more than semantics as it allows us to discern existence in a meaningful and practical way.
The primary definition, the definition of existence, is functional, sensible and intuitive. It seems only appropriate to employ the means by which we engage with the world as a means to define existence. As conscious beings perception is unavoidable in such inquiry.
The impossibility of nonexistence is not a forced result but rather a natural conclusion extending from the parameters established by the definition of existence. The conclusion is not purely definitional but substantiated through these parameters which involve real world experience.
Nonexistence cannot be; every attempt to reference or describe nonexistence involves existence. If nonexistence cannot be, if existence is not limited to any particular then existence is infinite.
The core terms and definitions expand into additional tenets and principles which logically interlink. Existence is infinite, existence is not limited. Existence is not limited to any particular, existence is all. There is no cause or reason beyond existence as any cause or reason would be existence. Thus, existence just is.
These principles and tenets allow insight into the nature of being. For example, reason is an aspect of existence, not a cause of existence or something beyond existence.
Other philosophies may seem more robust because they address ethical, moral and political concerns. The ontology presented intentionally does not. The ontology integrates any and all other concepts and systems as parts, things and aspects of existence or as existence itself.
The ontology is practical and accessible, it provides parameters to be employed by the individual directly as opposed to being confined exclusively to academic circles.
The philosophy connects epistemology and ontology while addressing their distinctions. It escapes the circularity of abstraction by grounding terms in concrete, real world examples.
The intent is not to dictate specifics of systems but to articulate an ontology or general framework in which systems can be understood.
The language and terms are accessible and intuitive. They are approachable and applicable. The definition of existence turns the discussion into more than semantics as it allows us to discern existence in a meaningful and practical way.
The primary definition, the definition of existence, is functional, sensible and intuitive. It seems only appropriate to employ the means by which we engage with the world as a means to define existence. As conscious beings perception is unavoidable in such inquiry.
The impossibility of nonexistence is not a forced result but rather a natural conclusion extending from the parameters established by the definition of existence. The conclusion is not purely definitional but substantiated through these parameters which involve real world experience.
Nonexistence cannot be; every attempt to reference or describe nonexistence involves existence. If nonexistence cannot be, if existence is not limited to any particular then existence is infinite.
The core terms and definitions expand into additional tenets and principles which logically interlink. Existence is infinite, existence is not limited. Existence is not limited to any particular, existence is all. There is no cause or reason beyond existence as any cause or reason would be existence. Thus, existence just is.
These principles and tenets allow insight into the nature of being. For example, reason is an aspect of existence, not a cause of existence or something beyond existence.
Other philosophies may seem more robust because they address ethical, moral and political concerns. The ontology presented intentionally does not. The ontology integrates any and all other concepts and systems as parts, things and aspects of existence or as existence itself.
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Sure. If the claim you're making is for a creature that is finite and limited by something, then it's possible to do. For example, I could say, "There are no goldfish in this pond." Then I could drain the pond, and prove conclusively that there were not such fish in there. But if I were trying to prove, say, that there are no more Tasmanian tigers left on Earth, that would be much harder...not impossible, perhaps; but a twinge of doubt might linger that somewhere on a hidden mountainside was a place I hadn't checked. So I could prove the non-existence of Tasmanian tigers...but with somewhat less assurance. The problem is that Tasmanian tigers move farther than goldfish in a pond.daniel j lavender wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 12:33 amFeel free to demonstrate.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:31 pmNon-existence is an extremely difficult thing to prove, even for ordinary things. It can be done, but it's very hard.
But what if I tried to argue that I know there's no God? What sort of tests would the speaker have to have run, before a reasonable person could believe such a claim?
So different claims have different levels of difficulty attached to them, in the matter of proving the non-existence of things.
But it's much easier to prove the opposite, the existence of things: if I can show one goldfish, I've falsified that claim of non-existence. If I can locate one Tasmanian tiger, or any conclusive evidence for such at all, like spoor, or a fresh pawprint, then I can falsify the non-existence claim regarding Tasmanian tigers. And if I can locate just one genuine miracle, one genuine revelation, one personal religious experience, one case of irreducible complexity in Creation, one logical deduction truly premised on truthful data, in any tradition that believes in God, at any time, in any place, by anybody, then I've falsified the non-existence of God claim. That's not much for me to have to do.
And, of course, the Atheist would have to do the opposite -- prove that no such think had ever happened, is every happening, or ever will happen. How is he going to do that? Nobody knows.
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I’m contending nonexistence has no ontological reality.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 5:09 amSure. If the claim you're making is for a creature that is finite and limited by something, then it's possible to do.
Reviewing your statement here it appears we agree:
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 6:34 pm"Nothing" is not something that you can expect to "exist," or anybody else can imagine could "exist," or that one can use the predication "exist" to refer to.
So there's no new information in the fact that it does not exist. It's not some kind of a wondrous realization; it's a dull and circular observation.
What you reference here is absence, not nonexistence. Absence of goldfish, absence of Tasmanian tigers. Those are still things, however, they simply are not present at a certain time and certain place. And, despite that absence, there is no gap of nonexistence where the goldfish or tigers would be. There is water, there are mountainous regions, there is existence.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 5:09 amFor example, I could say, "There are no goldfish in this pond." Then I could drain the pond, and prove conclusively that there were not such fish in there. But if I were trying to prove, say, that there are no more Tasmanian tigers left on Earth, that would be much harder...not impossible, perhaps; but a twinge of doubt might linger that somewhere on a hidden mountainside was a place I hadn't checked. So I could prove the non-existence of Tasmanian tigers...but with somewhat less assurance. The problem is that Tasmanian tigers move farther than goldfish in a pond.
Every thing mentioned in your statement is existence, by definition. The pond, the goldfish, the Tasmanian tiger, Earth, the mountains, even absence itself. Each is perceived or interacted with. There is no gap of nonexistence. There is only existence.
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Nothing is no thing. As defined in the essay: viewtopic.php?t=40269Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 5:22 amYou're supposing that "nothing" is a "thing." (See the word "co-exist" -- that implies that you're anticipating the existence of a "nothing," and criticizing the "nothing" for "not existing.")daniel j lavender wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:12 amThe coexistence of something and nothing is illogical.
Something, a thing, and nothing, no thing, cannot coexist or exist simultaneously.
If there is a thing there is not no thing.
A thing is a thing, not no thing. Something and nothing cannot coexist.
And “nothing” is a thing. A term, a word, a concept. A paradoxical term, word and concept. It is perceived, thus substantiating it as existence.
Nothing, no thing, nonexistence is not and cannot be. It cannot exist to coexist.
Absence and nothing are not the same. Absence is a circumstance or condition and can be observed. Bob’s absence from class Tuesday was acknowledged or observed by students, for example. Absences exist.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 5:22 amBut "nothing," literally no + thing, is not a thing-in-itself, but rather an absence. And absences don't "coexist." They never exist at all. They're void.
Still only things occupied the room, students, desks, air, etcetera. All people and items referenced, Bob, class, the students, etcetera, are things, are existence. Nothing, no thing, nonexistence is not and cannot be to be observed or referenced.
Absence concerns reference to a subject, to an existent thing and its location. The subject of reference is Bob, the existent thing, along with its location. The subject of reference is not nonexistence or nothing; neither nonexistence nor nothing have location or presence to be referenced in such a way.
The paradoxical term “nothing” can be observed or perceived, indicating it is existence, itself a thing.
Nothing, no thing, nothingness, nonexistence is not and cannot be.
The user “Dontaskme” to whom I was responding in that very post:Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 5:22 amAgain, I don't know any person who says anything so silly.daniel j lavender wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:12 am[Many] speak as if nonexistence is interwoven with existence, intimately connected, coexisting as “conjoined twins”.
Correct. Thus my initial statement “the coexistence of something and nothing is illogical”.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 5:22 amBut "nothing" doesn't "exist" at all, doesn't "coexist," and can't be expected to do so.
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You claim void or nonexistence because living quarters are allegedly absent. However living quarters are not absent else you could not reference them nor could I inhabit them.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 3:57 amI can, empirically.daniel j lavender wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 12:33 amFeel free to demonstrate.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:31 pmNon-existence is an extremely difficult thing to prove, even for ordinary things. It can be done, but it's very hard.
Here are two examples:
1. The device you are using to write this is not your living quarters. It is absent of being your living quarters. There is a relative void in this respect emergent as the device itself.
You must arbitrarily limit existence to claim nonexistence. Existence is infinite. Existence is not limited. Existence is not limited to the device. Existence is the device and the living quarters which are both admittedly present.
Furthermore the device is observably a thing, by definition. The device is perceived, observed, touched. It is acknowledged here in discussion. The device is existence, not nonexistence or void. Likewise for the living quarters.
In order to claim nonexistence you must wittingly omit things glaringly apparent. Worse, you must intentionally mislabel obvious, tangible objects as void. There is no actual instance of nonexistence or void present; you must redirect to other things, living quarters, etc., to create an appearance of lack.
If anything there is an abundance of things, not void, else you couldn’t recall so many items in your quest.
That concerns limited perspective due to limitations of the conscious individual, not limitations of existence itself or the presence of void. Change, development occurs upon the infrastructure of existence, of being. Change does not occur upon the infrastructure of void or nonexistence.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 3:57 am2. This device changes. Programs and apps come and go, writings come and go, it will come and go. The change of your device necessitates the potentiality to do so, there must be a space by which it can change, this space is a void as the absence of specific things in its place.
Existence is not progressing into nonexistence. Existence does not need to progress. Existence is all. There is no other to progress to. Thus no need for such void.
Again, you are arbitrarily limiting existence in order to introduce void or nonexistence. Existence is infinite. Existence is not limited.
Besides, you admit yourself it’s potentiality, not void. Change, by your own admission, would require some capacity to occur, and capacity or potentiality is not nonexistence.
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And, as conscious beings, both “what is” and “what is not” are conceptual mechanisms employed to help process information, as stated above.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 3:53 amWe know a thing by "what is" and "what is not".daniel j lavender wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 3:33 amThat is complexity concerning conscious beings. Existence simply is. Conscious beings, such as humans, employ conceptual mechanisms or distinctions for purposes of orientation and understanding.
This is articulated in the essay:
Nothingness is a conceptual mechanism employed by conscious beings, specifically advanced organisms like human beings, to help process information.daniel j lavender wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 5:44 pmExistence just is. We, as biological beings, create need. As conscious individuals we create purpose. Much like we create good and bad, right and left, up and down.
Nonexistence is not needed to discern existence. As illustrated with the ontology and definition, existence is that which is perceived or interacted with, at least in part, in some way. This is apparent by the definition of existence alone. There is no need to reference nonexistence to discern existence. Nonexistence is not and cannot be anyway.
The term existence is not meaningless, nor is the definition merely a label. The term is explicitly defined. The definition is operational as illustrated above and in the essay. It provides parameters to substantiate and identify existence. It’s actionable; it actually shows what existence is.
Not only is the term not meaningless, rejection of the definition would essentially be rejection of observable, everyday things as existence.
Things are known by their qualities, by what is. Even the alleged “what is not”, itself conceptual, refers to other qualities of other things, again, what is.
Again these are complexities concerning conscious beings, particularly human beings. Existence just is.
Additionally both the concept or distinction existence, and the concept or distinction nonexistence are concepts or distinctions, mechanisms employed by conscious beings. Both are [parts of] existence.
By its very nature the definition of existence, existence generally speaking, encompasses every definition. In fact every thing. Existence is every thing. Good, bad, up, down, correct, incorrect. Existence is infinite, existence is unlimited. Existence is not limited to any particular.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 3:53 amIf existence is infinite then there are infinite definitions of it by degree of the reality that unfolds as it. The unfolding of existence unfolds paradox as paradox is a part of existence.
Your thesis is severely limited for how much you claim it is infinite.
The thesis is the thesis. Existence is existence. Existence is infinite.
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That has to be the most tautological and unsurprising claim in history. Tell us all something we don't know.daniel j lavender wrote: ↑Thu Oct 16, 2025 11:34 amI’m contending nonexistence has no ontological reality.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 5:09 amSure. If the claim you're making is for a creature that is finite and limited by something, then it's possible to do.
Perhaps. But it still makes me wonder why you thought it was some sort of important point. It doesn't seem to me to be a premise useful to any particular conclusion.`Reviewing your statement here it appears we agree:
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 6:34 pm"Nothing" is not something that you can expect to "exist," or anybody else can imagine could "exist," or that one can use the predication "exist" to refer to.
So there's no new information in the fact that it does not exist. It's not some kind of a wondrous realization; it's a dull and circular observation.
What you reference here is absence, not nonexistence.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 5:09 amFor example, I could say, "There are no goldfish in this pond." Then I could drain the pond, and prove conclusively that there were not such fish in there. But if I were trying to prove, say, that there are no more Tasmanian tigers left on Earth, that would be much harder...not impossible, perhaps; but a twinge of doubt might linger that somewhere on a hidden mountainside was a place I hadn't checked. So I could prove the non-existence of Tasmanian tigers...but with somewhat less assurance. The problem is that Tasmanian tigers move farther than goldfish in a pond.
Same thing: to say that there are no goldfish in the pond is to say "none exist here," and also, if they were to be expected, "they are absent." But the only difference is whether or not there was an expectation of any. In the first instance, maybe none were expected; in the second, a disappointment of expectation is entailed.
I still see no use of this argument to any particular conclusion. If you've got a point, you're going to have to make it concisely. Maybe we can clarify it this way: what is the conclusion at which you are aiming?
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No you are distorting context: the device is not your living corridor, these things are distinct. Because things are distinct there are innumberable things the distinct thing is not. Another example is that a car is not a tree, where a car is a tree is absent...as well as an innumberable number of other things.daniel j lavender wrote: ↑Thu Oct 16, 2025 12:15 pmYou claim void or nonexistence because living quarters are allegedly absent. However living quarters are not absent else you could not reference them nor could I inhabit them.
You must arbitrarily limit existence to claim nonexistence. Existence is infinite. Existence is not limited. Existence is not limited to the device. Existence is the device and the living quarters which are both admittedly present.
Furthermore the device is observably a thing, by definition. The device is perceived, observed, touched. It is acknowledged here in discussion. The device is existence, not nonexistence or void. Likewise for the living quarters.
In order to claim nonexistence you must wittingly omit things glaringly apparent. Worse, you must intentionally mislabel obvious, tangible objects as void. There is no actual instance of nonexistence or void present; you must redirect to other things, living quarters, etc., to create an appearance of lack.
If anything there is an abundance of things, not void, else you couldn’t recall so many items in your quest.
That concerns limited perspective due to limitations of the conscious individual, not limitations of existence itself or the presence of void. Change, development occurs upon the infrastructure of existence, of being. Change does not occur upon the infrastructure of void or nonexistence.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 3:57 am2. This device changes. Programs and apps come and go, writings come and go, it will come and go. The change of your device necessitates the potentiality to do so, there must be a space by which it can change, this space is a void as the absence of specific things in its place.
Existence is not progressing into nonexistence. Existence does not need to progress. Existence is all. There is no other to progress to. Thus no need for such void.
Again, you are arbitrarily limiting existence in order to introduce void or nonexistence. Existence is infinite. Existence is not limited.
Besides, you admit yourself it’s potentiality, not void. Change, by your own admission, would require some capacity to occur, and capacity or potentiality is not nonexistence.
Where one thing is there are innumberable things absent where said thing is, a localized object is the void of other things.
In simple terms: void exists, nothingness exists. Void exists as the locality of the thing itself.
Change only occurs if there is an absence for a new thing to take place, this is the potentiality and potentiality is the absence of actualities.
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If your are going to resort to my argument being grounded in being a human conceptual mechanism, and by degree is faulty because of it....then you whole thesis, as a human conceptual mechanism, is debunked by your own standards.daniel j lavender wrote: ↑Thu Oct 16, 2025 1:08 pmAnd, as conscious beings, both “what is” and “what is not” are conceptual mechanisms employed to help process information, as stated above.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 3:53 amWe know a thing by "what is" and "what is not".daniel j lavender wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 3:33 am
That is complexity concerning conscious beings. Existence simply is. Conscious beings, such as humans, employ conceptual mechanisms or distinctions for purposes of orientation and understanding.
This is articulated in the essay:
Nothingness is a conceptual mechanism employed by conscious beings, specifically advanced organisms like human beings, to help process information.
Nonexistence is not needed to discern existence. As illustrated with the ontology and definition, existence is that which is perceived or interacted with, at least in part, in some way. This is apparent by the definition of existence alone. There is no need to reference nonexistence to discern existence. Nonexistence is not and cannot be anyway.
The term existence is not meaningless, nor is the definition merely a label. The term is explicitly defined. The definition is operational as illustrated above and in the essay. It provides parameters to substantiate and identify existence. It’s actionable; it actually shows what existence is.
Not only is the term not meaningless, rejection of the definition would essentially be rejection of observable, everyday things as existence.
Things are known by their qualities, by what is. Even the alleged “what is not”, itself conceptual, refers to other qualities of other things, again, what is.
Again these are complexities concerning conscious beings, particularly human beings. Existence just is.
Additionally both the concept or distinction existence, and the concept or distinction nonexistence are concepts or distinctions, mechanisms employed by conscious beings. Both are [parts of] existence.
By its very nature the definition of existence, existence generally speaking, encompasses every definition. In fact every thing. Existence is every thing. Good, bad, up, down, correct, incorrect. Existence is infinite, existence is unlimited. Existence is not limited to any particular.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 3:53 amIf existence is infinite then there are infinite definitions of it by degree of the reality that unfolds as it. The unfolding of existence unfolds paradox as paradox is a part of existence.
Your thesis is severely limited for how much you claim it is infinite.
The thesis is the thesis. Existence is existence. Existence is infinite.
You contradict yourself by your own axioms.
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How can we debate this question based on logical inference when logic encounters the problem of infinite regress? In this sense, whatever seems to be the most logical conclusion—that non-existence is impossible; therefore, existence is infinite—is a conclusion formed without full knowledge. I could just as easily say that just as there is an ‘on’ (existence), there is an ‘off’ (non-existence), applying the principle of balance. Given that there is a specific example of non-existence (death and decay) and that no one has ever come back (to existence) to tell us what precisely happens, it is logically ‘safe’ to conclude that a dead person’s non-existence is permanent or infinite. Here, we see that logic can inform us about two contradictory things and be ‘sound’ in both cases. Thus, inferences on this subject are unreliable.
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Then you agree. Evidently many others do as well.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Oct 16, 2025 5:35 pmThat has to be the most tautological and unsurprising claim in history. Tell us all something we don't know.daniel j lavender wrote: ↑Thu Oct 16, 2025 11:34 amI’m contending nonexistence has no ontological reality.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 5:09 amSure. If the claim you're making is for a creature that is finite and limited by something, then it's possible to do.
In fact the idea dates back to at least Parmenides of Elea approximately 2,500 years ago. I suppose you knew that, too.
However Parmenides, like many other philosophers, failed to provide explicit, operational terms or definitions with his philosophy. As a result his ontology is trapped in abstraction, it is rather poetic and ambiguous.
The ontology presented here provides explicit terms and definitions. The terms are operational, providing practical means of substantiation. Unlike Parmenides’ system the framework presented successfully bridges the gap between abstract and concrete. It breaks the ambiguous, vacuous loop of abstraction.
Parmenides’ philosophy also lacks theological versatility as it espouses a relatively rigid worldview. The ontology presented here is expansive and fundamental enough to accommodate various worldviews including deism, theism, pantheism and atheism.
Parmenides essentially dismissed change as illusory. The ontology presented accommodates change while maintaining the constancy of existence.
I am not merely regurgitating the literature. I am not simply arguing for argument’s sake. I am producing and offering a novel philosophical framework.
The goal is to produce a functional, foundational ontology accessible to anyone.
Absence and nonexistence are not the same.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Oct 16, 2025 5:35 pmSame thing: to say that there are no goldfish in the pond is to say "none exist here," and also, if they were to be expected, "they are absent." But the only difference is whether or not there was an expectation of any. In the first instance, maybe none were expected; in the second, a disappointment of expectation is entailed.daniel j lavender wrote: ↑Thu Oct 16, 2025 11:34 amWhat you reference here is absence, not nonexistence.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 5:09 amFor example, I could say, "There are no goldfish in this pond." Then I could drain the pond, and prove conclusively that there were not such fish in there. But if I were trying to prove, say, that there are no more Tasmanian tigers left on Earth, that would be much harder...not impossible, perhaps; but a twinge of doubt might linger that somewhere on a hidden mountainside was a place I hadn't checked. So I could prove the non-existence of Tasmanian tigers...but with somewhat less assurance. The problem is that Tasmanian tigers move farther than goldfish in a pond.
Every thing referenced in your statement is an example of existence, not nonexistence.
Existence is defined as:
This operational definition establishes a direct, practical way to substantiate existence.daniel j lavender wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 5:44 pmExistence (n.): Being; that which is perceived, at least in part; that which is interacted with, at least in part, in some way.
The goldfish is existence, it is perceived. Goldfish are existence, they are perceived. The pond is existence, it is perceived. The purported absence of goldfish itself is existence, a circumstance or condition as it is perceived. All are examples of existence. Nonexistence is not referenced.
The concept none/nonexistence itself is a conceptual mechanism employed by conscious beings, specifically advanced organisms like human beings to help process information. The concept is perceived. The concept is a thing, existence, not nonexistence. Hence a paradoxical concept.
Absence and nonexistence are not the same. Absence is perceived, it is substantiated. Concepts are perceived, they are substantiated. Nonexistence is not.
Existence is infinite. As the title proclaims.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Oct 16, 2025 5:35 pmI still see no use of this argument to any particular conclusion. If you've got a point, you're going to have to make it concisely. Maybe we can clarify it this way: what is the conclusion at which you are aiming?
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I never claimed those aspects were faulty.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 4:51 amIf your are going to resort to my argument being grounded in being a human conceptual mechanism, and by degree is faulty because of it....then you whole thesis, as a human conceptual mechanism, is debunked by your own standards.daniel j lavender wrote: ↑Thu Oct 16, 2025 1:08 pmAnd, as conscious beings, both “what is” and “what is not” are conceptual mechanisms employed to help process information, as stated above.
Things are known by their qualities, by what is. Even the alleged “what is not”, itself conceptual, refers to other qualities of other things, again, what is.
Again these are complexities concerning conscious beings, particularly human beings. Existence just is.
Additionally both the concept or distinction existence, and the concept or distinction nonexistence are concepts or distinctions, mechanisms employed by conscious beings. Both are [parts of] existence.
You contradict yourself by your own axioms.
I simply referred to them as conceptual mechanisms and complexities concerning conscious beings.
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Existence is infinite, existence is unlimited. Existence is not limited to any particular, existence is all.
Existence does not depend on any previous or prior state. There is no previous or prior state upon which to depend. Existence is all. Existence is constant. Infinite regress is not an issue.
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4.15.2026 Essay Revisions
Abstract Revision
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Existence is infinite, existence is unlimited. Only nothing or nonexistence could actually limit existence; however, nothing or nonexistence is not and cannot be. Existence is infinite, existence is not limited as there is [not] nothing beyond existence to limit or restrict it.
Revised
Existence is infinite, existence is unlimited. Only nothing or nonexistence could actually limit existence; however, nothing or nonexistence is not and cannot be. Existence is infinite, existence is not limited as there is not nothing beyond existence to limit or restrict it.
Existence Definition Revision
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Existence (n.): Being; that which is perceived, at least in part; that which is interacted with, at least in part, in some way.
Revised
Existence (n.): Being; that which is perceived or interacted with, at least in part.
Perception Term And Definition Addition
Perception (n.): Sensory experience or mental apprehension.
Removed Intelligence Term And Definition
Thing Definition Revision
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Thing (n.): An existing, material or immaterial; a part of existence. That which is perceived or interacted with, at least in part, in some way. E.g. a word, an object, matter, energy, consciousness, a concept, an event, a process, etc.
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Thing (n.): An existing, material or immaterial; a part of existence. That which is perceived or interacted with, at least in part. E.g. a word, an object, matter, energy, consciousness, a concept, an event, a process, etc.
Reason Paragraph Addition
Existence is infinite, existence is unlimited. Existence is not limited to any particular, existence is all. There is no cause or reason beyond existence as any cause or reason would be existence. Thus, existence just is.
Existence Is Constant Paragraph Revision
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Any thing, substance itself is being, is existence. The thing is. Substance is. It always concerns existence. Existence is constant. Things, parts may change. Parts may develop, they may transform, they may shift around or reform, they may break apart or break away but existence always is.
Revised
Any thing, substance itself is being, is existence. The thing is. Substance is. It always concerns existence. Existence is constant. Things, parts may change. Existence, being all things, persists through change. Parts may develop, they may transform, they may shift around or reform, they may break apart or break away but existence always is.
Note Revision
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- All variance balances as simply being. All difference, all variation, all opposition balances as simply being, as simply existence.
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- All variance balances as simply being. All difference, all variation, all opposition balances as simply being, as simply existence. Down is. Up is. Bad is. Good is. Dark is. Light is. All is existence.
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Note Revision
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- Existence is not needed. Existence is not needed as there is [not] nothing beyond existence to need or require it. Alternatively phrased, there isn't any thing beyond existence to need existence because every thing is part of existence. Existence is not needed, existence just is.
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- Existence is not needed as there is [not] nothing beyond existence to need or require it. Alternatively phrased, there isn’t any thing beyond existence to need existence because every thing is part of existence. Existence is not needed, existence just is.
Removed No Reason For Existence Note
Removed Perception Note And Integrated Into Terms And Definitions
The Significance Of Perception Paragraph Revision
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Perception or consciousness is part of the basis of defining existence because conscious entities, such as ourselves, are who this issue matters to. Existence, things can be without consciousness or awareness, but consciousness or awareness must be included because that's what we are. For our purposes existence is that which is, or can, at least partially, be perceived. It involves perception both because perception is part of existence and because the issue intimately concerns conscious entities. It implicitly involves perception or consciousness because that is the process used for such inquiry and exchange.
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Perception is part of the basis of defining existence because perceptive, conscious entities, such as ourselves, are who this issue matters to. Things can be without perception, but perception must be included because that’s what we are, perceptive beings. For our purposes existence is that which is, or can, at least partially, be perceived. It involves perception both because perception is part of existence and because the issue intimately concerns perceptive, conscious beings. It implicitly involves perception and consciousness because those are the processes used for such inquiry and exchange.
That Which Is Section Addition
Existence is not merely defined as “that which is” because “is” would have to be addressed which would involve perception. The matter implicitly involves perception and interaction; the term “is” only has significance with perception.
“Is” indicates being or existence and “is”, at least for us, is substantiated through perception or interaction.
The term “is” is a word, it concerns language, and language only has significance to perceptive, conscious beings. To claim existence “is” would require explaining what “is” means which would unavoidably involve perception.
It doesn’t really matter what the term is claimed to mean. The point is perception is required to attribute that meaning. “Is” has no meaning by itself. “Is” is abstract and provides no actual explanation.
The ontology resolves this issue by linking existence to perception, at least epistemologically. This grounds the abstraction in real world examples showing what existence is.
Existence doesn’t need us to function. Ocean waves surge whether humans document them or not. However when we talk about existence we are using language, a tool of conscious beings. Existence doesn’t need perception to be, but the term “is” requires perception and consciousness to have meaning.
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Abstract Revision
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Existence is infinite, existence is unlimited. Only nothing or nonexistence could actually limit existence; however, nothing or nonexistence is not and cannot be. Existence is infinite, existence is not limited as there is [not] nothing beyond existence to limit or restrict it.
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Existence is infinite, existence is unlimited. Only nothing or nonexistence could actually limit existence; however, nothing or nonexistence is not and cannot be. Existence is infinite, existence is not limited as there is not nothing beyond existence to limit or restrict it.
Existence Definition Revision
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Existence (n.): Being; that which is perceived, at least in part; that which is interacted with, at least in part, in some way.
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Existence (n.): Being; that which is perceived or interacted with, at least in part.
Perception Term And Definition Addition
Perception (n.): Sensory experience or mental apprehension.
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Thing Definition Revision
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Thing (n.): An existing, material or immaterial; a part of existence. That which is perceived or interacted with, at least in part, in some way. E.g. a word, an object, matter, energy, consciousness, a concept, an event, a process, etc.
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Thing (n.): An existing, material or immaterial; a part of existence. That which is perceived or interacted with, at least in part. E.g. a word, an object, matter, energy, consciousness, a concept, an event, a process, etc.
Reason Paragraph Addition
Existence is infinite, existence is unlimited. Existence is not limited to any particular, existence is all. There is no cause or reason beyond existence as any cause or reason would be existence. Thus, existence just is.
Existence Is Constant Paragraph Revision
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Any thing, substance itself is being, is existence. The thing is. Substance is. It always concerns existence. Existence is constant. Things, parts may change. Parts may develop, they may transform, they may shift around or reform, they may break apart or break away but existence always is.
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Any thing, substance itself is being, is existence. The thing is. Substance is. It always concerns existence. Existence is constant. Things, parts may change. Existence, being all things, persists through change. Parts may develop, they may transform, they may shift around or reform, they may break apart or break away but existence always is.
Note Revision
Former
- All variance balances as simply being. All difference, all variation, all opposition balances as simply being, as simply existence.
Revised
- All variance balances as simply being. All difference, all variation, all opposition balances as simply being, as simply existence. Down is. Up is. Bad is. Good is. Dark is. Light is. All is existence.
Removed/Expanded That Which Is Note Into That Which Is Section
Note Revision
Former
- Existence is not needed. Existence is not needed as there is [not] nothing beyond existence to need or require it. Alternatively phrased, there isn't any thing beyond existence to need existence because every thing is part of existence. Existence is not needed, existence just is.
Revised
- Existence is not needed as there is [not] nothing beyond existence to need or require it. Alternatively phrased, there isn’t any thing beyond existence to need existence because every thing is part of existence. Existence is not needed, existence just is.
Removed No Reason For Existence Note
Removed Perception Note And Integrated Into Terms And Definitions
The Significance Of Perception Paragraph Revision
Former
Perception or consciousness is part of the basis of defining existence because conscious entities, such as ourselves, are who this issue matters to. Existence, things can be without consciousness or awareness, but consciousness or awareness must be included because that's what we are. For our purposes existence is that which is, or can, at least partially, be perceived. It involves perception both because perception is part of existence and because the issue intimately concerns conscious entities. It implicitly involves perception or consciousness because that is the process used for such inquiry and exchange.
Revised
Perception is part of the basis of defining existence because perceptive, conscious entities, such as ourselves, are who this issue matters to. Things can be without perception, but perception must be included because that’s what we are, perceptive beings. For our purposes existence is that which is, or can, at least partially, be perceived. It involves perception both because perception is part of existence and because the issue intimately concerns perceptive, conscious beings. It implicitly involves perception and consciousness because those are the processes used for such inquiry and exchange.
That Which Is Section Addition
Existence is not merely defined as “that which is” because “is” would have to be addressed which would involve perception. The matter implicitly involves perception and interaction; the term “is” only has significance with perception.
“Is” indicates being or existence and “is”, at least for us, is substantiated through perception or interaction.
The term “is” is a word, it concerns language, and language only has significance to perceptive, conscious beings. To claim existence “is” would require explaining what “is” means which would unavoidably involve perception.
It doesn’t really matter what the term is claimed to mean. The point is perception is required to attribute that meaning. “Is” has no meaning by itself. “Is” is abstract and provides no actual explanation.
The ontology resolves this issue by linking existence to perception, at least epistemologically. This grounds the abstraction in real world examples showing what existence is.
Existence doesn’t need us to function. Ocean waves surge whether humans document them or not. However when we talk about existence we are using language, a tool of conscious beings. Existence doesn’t need perception to be, but the term “is” requires perception and consciousness to have meaning.
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Re: Existence Is Infinite
What do you mean? This is far too vague to tell us anything. "Existence" is an attribute, not a thing-in-itself. You seem to be using the word as if it were a concrete noun, or something like that. It's impossible to tell.
Maybe you can give us the syllogism you're aiming to establish. It's just not at all obvious.