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Re: Provide Your Metaphysics Here Age, If You Desire to be Understood

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Age wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:54 am Once again, for the very slow of learners, here, or for those who have not yet read 'my words' where I have already stated, I am not, here, in this forum, to be necessarily understood by you posters, here.

I am, here, to learn how to communicate better, with you human beings.
What do you mean by communication? Can you clarify?
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Re: Provide Your Metaphysics Here Age, If You Desire to be Understood

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:40 am
Age wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:39 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 11:25 pm

What do you mean by "clarifying"?

Your terminology is ambiguous and yet you seek to communicate with others.
Why is the word, 'clarifying', ambiguous, to you?

If you clarify 'this', then I am in a better situation to communicate, better, to you, what I mean by 'clarifying'. Until 'then' I await your clarification.

Also, is the terminology, clarifying, ambiguous to absolutely anyone else, here?

If yes, then how and why, exactly?
What do you mean by "clarifying", from your point of view that only you mean?
So, what 'we' have, here, is another prime example of how 'these people', back when this was being written, Truly did not want to learn and understand more or anew, and really did just want to obtain some 'got you moment'. As what they really did desire was that 'others' accepted and agreed with their own personal made up views and beliefs.

'This one', for example, is 'trying to' write a 360 page book, in the hope that others will 'understand' what it has come to believe is absolutely true, but because I have pointed out and shown some of the failings within its beliefs and assumptions, like I have with "magnus anderson" and others, here, 'this one', like the others, have not taking a liking to 'this', and so 'now' are seeking some sort of 'revenge' in 'ways' that they, laughingly, think will work.
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Re: Provide Your Metaphysics Here Age, If You Desire to be Understood

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Age wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:56 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:56 am
Age wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:54 am Once again, for the very slow of learners, here, or for those who have not yet read 'my words' where I have already stated, I am not, here, in this forum, to be necessarily understood by you posters, here.

I am, here, to learn how to communicate better, with you human beings.
So being understood is not necessary and yet you desire to communicate better with this communication on your part not being necessary to understand for others?
Once again, your sentence and claim does not make sense, to me, as well you have put a question mark at the end of your statement, here.

Further, I am, here, wanting to learn how to communicate better, with you human beings, but, again, not necessarily so within this forum. I am, again, using you posters, here, so as to learn how to communicate better, with you human beings, eventually. And, how I want to do this is, for example, when a human being like "yourself" "eodnhoj7" says and writes the word, 'metaphysical', and I then just ask you to clarify what do you mean by the word, 'metaphysical, then when, and if, you provide a clarifying answer, then I am and thus will learn how to communicate better 'with you'.

So, until you provide me with a clarifying answer I am not learning how to communicate better, 'with you'. Did you understand 'this'?
Can you clarify what you mean by sense?
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Re: Provide Your Metaphysics Here Age, If You Desire to be Understood

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Age wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:48 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:40 am
Age wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:39 am

Why is the word, 'clarifying', ambiguous, to you?

If you clarify 'this', then I am in a better situation to communicate, better, to you, what I mean by 'clarifying'. Until 'then' I await your clarification.

Also, is the terminology, clarifying, ambiguous to absolutely anyone else, here?

If yes, then how and why, exactly?
What do you mean by "clarifying", from your point of view that only you mean?
So, what 'we' have, here, is another prime example of how 'these people', back when this was being written, Truly did not want to learn and understand more or anew, and really did just want to obtain some 'got you moment'. As what they really did desire was that 'others' accepted and agreed with their own personal made up views and beliefs.

'This one', for example, is 'trying to' write a 360 page book, in the hope that others will 'understand' what it has come to believe is absolutely true, but because I have pointed out and shown some of the failings within its beliefs and assumptions, like I have with "magnus anderson" and others, here, 'this one', like the others, have not taking a liking to 'this', and so 'now' are seeking some sort of 'revenge' in 'ways' that they, laughingly, think will work.
Can you clarify what you mean by prime example?
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Re: Provide Your Metaphysics Here Age, If You Desire to be Understood

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Age wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:56 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:56 am
Age wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:54 am Once again, for the very slow of learners, here, or for those who have not yet read 'my words' where I have already stated, I am not, here, in this forum, to be necessarily understood by you posters, here.

I am, here, to learn how to communicate better, with you human beings.
So being understood is not necessary and yet you desire to communicate better with this communication on your part not being necessary to understand for others?
Once again, your sentence and claim does not make sense, to me, as well you have put a question mark at the end of your statement, here.

Further, I am, here, wanting to learn how to communicate better, with you human beings, but, again, not necessarily so within this forum. I am, again, using you posters, here, so as to learn how to communicate better, with you human beings, eventually. And, how I want to do this is, for example, when a human being like "yourself" "eodnhoj7" says and writes the word, 'metaphysical', and I then just ask you to clarify what do you mean by the word, 'metaphysical, then when, and if, you provide a clarifying answer, then I am and thus will learn how to communicate better 'with you'.

So, until you provide me with a clarifying answer I am not learning how to communicate better, 'with you'. Did you understand 'this'?
Can you clarify what you mean by the word "with"?
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Re: Provide Your Metaphysics Here Age, If You Desire to be Understood

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Age wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 11:35 pm
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:29 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:56 am

So being understood is not necessary and yet you desire to communicate better with this communication on your part not being necessary to understand for others?
Communication is a language tool that connects individuals and facilitates the exchange of ideas, it is the depth of understanding that truly enriches these interactions. Communication is good, it can be deep or shallow,but understanding is everything.
Yes, once understanding 'understanding', itself, is obtained, then this is when human beings really 'take off', in evolutionary terms, and really move forward and progress in fulfilling 'the One unified dream' of every human being's want and desire.

And, once 'i' learn how to communicate, better, how 'all of this' can be achieved, and reached, and in its most Truly simple and easy way, with 'you', human beings, then 'you' all can really begin creating, and thus begin living, in peace and harmony with one another together, as a Unified One.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:29 pm You either understand what’s being communicated by others or you don’t. You can’t force people to understand your communication techniques. Similarly, you can’t expect people to understand your communication either, they will or they won’t.
What I have found is that it is only through asking questions, from a Truly open perspective, for clarification sake, to the best and most efficient way of communication to Truly understand what another is really meaning.

However, as can be seen and proved throughout this forum getting 'others' to just 'open up' and being 'forth coming' in just providing actual clarification in what they mean is not some thing that 'these people' will readily do. However, because I already fully understand how and why 'they' are 'the way' that 'they are', then it is just a process of 'waiting patiently' until 'they' want to communicate with 'me' better.

Again, 'I' am, here, just wanting to learn how to communicate better. I am just waiting until I present words in the 'Right way' in which people feel totally comfortable to be open and honest when they respond to me and when they just answer 'my questions' to clarify 'their views and positions. in other words I am just 'waiting', here, until I find the 'Right words', and until I find the 'Right way' to present 'those words.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:29 pm If one has already made their mind up that Age is not worth talking to then all communication is blocked and made impossible. Only if you really want to communicate with someone will understanding come, or it won’t. Better communication is when people are willing to work together in communication, and not be against the other, or with each other.
Very True. However, and very sadly, through a very ill-gotten 'education system' you people were 'taught' to pick "sides" and 'fight' for and/or against "sides". you were all also 'taught' that 'not yet knowing' things was wrong, bad, and punishable, you were all 'taught' to judge, ridicule, and to humiliate 'those' who were 'different', 'not as good/smart', and who did not 'fit in'. So, you all have a tendency to just not admit when you do not, yet, know some thing, and so you all pretend to 'know' more than you really do, and you all tend to never 'stray away' from what you were 'taught' to believe is true. And, so you all have some level of desire to 'fit in' by 'trying to' form 'groups', creating a 'us' versus 'them' attitude and to just keep believing the 'same words' that you were 'taught' to believe is absolutely true. For example, 'look at' how long it took 'that one' to just communicate, better, the Fact that, actually, the sun did not revolve around the sun, and it was, in fact, the other way around.

Even though 'that one' was just trying to communicate, better, an actual Truth, it was because of people's prior ill-gotten 'teachings', and of being 'taught' to believe some things to be 'absolutely true', why it took so, so long for 'those human beings' to 'catch up' and 'learn' what the actual Truth of things, were/are.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:29 pm When two people are only really wanting and willing to work together, only then will understanding come, and it’ll come naturally of it’s own accord.
Again, very, very True.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:29 pm Understanding is not something you can teach another until they are ready to understand. It’s something that automatically happens spontaneously, actually.
Once you people, and human beings, learn, and 'understand', who and what 'you' are, exactly, and, how and why 'you' all do exactly what 'you do', then an understanding of 'understanding', itself, is revealed, and from this 'understanding', itself, actual 'wisdom' for everything else also is revealed, and understood, as well.

So, once 'understanding', itself, is fully and Truly understood, then you human beings move out of the 'human being' stage, in Life, and up to the next evolutionary stage, and level, of Life, and living, Itself.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:29 pm That’s if you’re open enough to allow others to communicate with you in the first place, instead of just shutting them down, or writing them off as pointless, as many of you do with Age in this forum.
I have noticed you all do it with 'each other' as well, not just with "age", itself.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:29 pm Understanding is everything. When one thing is known, everything is known.
It could be said, and argued, that one 'understanding', of "one's" 'Self', Itself, is known, then everything else can and does become known, and much simpler and much easier I will add.
Can you clarify by what you mean with the word "is"?
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Re: Provide Your Metaphysics Here Age, If You Desire to be Understood

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Age wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:54 am Once again, for the very slow of learners, here, or for those who have not yet read 'my words' where I have already stated, I am not, here, in this forum, to be necessarily understood by you posters, here.

I am, here, to learn how to communicate better, with you human beings.
Can you clarify what you mean by the word "the"? I am afraid you are being ambiguous.
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Re: Provide Your Metaphysics Here Age, If You Desire to be Understood

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Age wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 11:35 pm
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:29 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:56 am

So being understood is not necessary and yet you desire to communicate better with this communication on your part not being necessary to understand for others?
Communication is a language tool that connects individuals and facilitates the exchange of ideas, it is the depth of understanding that truly enriches these interactions. Communication is good, it can be deep or shallow,but understanding is everything.
Yes, once understanding 'understanding', itself, is obtained, then this is when human beings really 'take off', in evolutionary terms, and really move forward and progress in fulfilling 'the One unified dream' of every human being's want and desire.

And, once 'i' learn how to communicate, better, how 'all of this' can be achieved, and reached, and in its most Truly simple and easy way, with 'you', human beings, then 'you' all can really begin creating, and thus begin living, in peace and harmony with one another together, as a Unified One.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:29 pm You either understand what’s being communicated by others or you don’t. You can’t force people to understand your communication techniques. Similarly, you can’t expect people to understand your communication either, they will or they won’t.
What I have found is that it is only through asking questions, from a Truly open perspective, for clarification sake, to the best and most efficient way of communication to Truly understand what another is really meaning.

However, as can be seen and proved throughout this forum getting 'others' to just 'open up' and being 'forth coming' in just providing actual clarification in what they mean is not some thing that 'these people' will readily do. However, because I already fully understand how and why 'they' are 'the way' that 'they are', then it is just a process of 'waiting patiently' until 'they' want to communicate with 'me' better.

Again, 'I' am, here, just wanting to learn how to communicate better. I am just waiting until I present words in the 'Right way' in which people feel totally comfortable to be open and honest when they respond to me and when they just answer 'my questions' to clarify 'their views and positions. in other words I am just 'waiting', here, until I find the 'Right words', and until I find the 'Right way' to present 'those words.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:29 pm If one has already made their mind up that Age is not worth talking to then all communication is blocked and made impossible. Only if you really want to communicate with someone will understanding come, or it won’t. Better communication is when people are willing to work together in communication, and not be against the other, or with each other.
Very True. However, and very sadly, through a very ill-gotten 'education system' you people were 'taught' to pick "sides" and 'fight' for and/or against "sides". you were all also 'taught' that 'not yet knowing' things was wrong, bad, and punishable, you were all 'taught' to judge, ridicule, and to humiliate 'those' who were 'different', 'not as good/smart', and who did not 'fit in'. So, you all have a tendency to just not admit when you do not, yet, know some thing, and so you all pretend to 'know' more than you really do, and you all tend to never 'stray away' from what you were 'taught' to believe is true. And, so you all have some level of desire to 'fit in' by 'trying to' form 'groups', creating a 'us' versus 'them' attitude and to just keep believing the 'same words' that you were 'taught' to believe is absolutely true. For example, 'look at' how long it took 'that one' to just communicate, better, the Fact that, actually, the sun did not revolve around the sun, and it was, in fact, the other way around.

Even though 'that one' was just trying to communicate, better, an actual Truth, it was because of people's prior ill-gotten 'teachings', and of being 'taught' to believe some things to be 'absolutely true', why it took so, so long for 'those human beings' to 'catch up' and 'learn' what the actual Truth of things, were/are.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:29 pm When two people are only really wanting and willing to work together, only then will understanding come, and it’ll come naturally of it’s own accord.
Again, very, very True.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:29 pm Understanding is not something you can teach another until they are ready to understand. It’s something that automatically happens spontaneously, actually.
Once you people, and human beings, learn, and 'understand', who and what 'you' are, exactly, and, how and why 'you' all do exactly what 'you do', then an understanding of 'understanding', itself, is revealed, and from this 'understanding', itself, actual 'wisdom' for everything else also is revealed, and understood, as well.

So, once 'understanding', itself, is fully and Truly understood, then you human beings move out of the 'human being' stage, in Life, and up to the next evolutionary stage, and level, of Life, and living, Itself.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:29 pm That’s if you’re open enough to allow others to communicate with you in the first place, instead of just shutting them down, or writing them off as pointless, as many of you do with Age in this forum.
I have noticed you all do it with 'each other' as well, not just with "age", itself.
Fairy wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:29 pm Understanding is everything. When one thing is known, everything is known.
It could be said, and argued, that one 'understanding', of "one's" 'Self', Itself, is known, then everything else can and does become known, and much simpler and much easier I will add.
Can you clarify what you mean by "understanding"?
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Re: Provide Your Metaphysics Here Age, If You Desire to be Understood

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Age wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:56 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:56 am
Age wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:54 am Once again, for the very slow of learners, here, or for those who have not yet read 'my words' where I have already stated, I am not, here, in this forum, to be necessarily understood by you posters, here.

I am, here, to learn how to communicate better, with you human beings.
So being understood is not necessary and yet you desire to communicate better with this communication on your part not being necessary to understand for others?
Once again, your sentence and claim does not make sense, to me, as well you have put a question mark at the end of your statement, here.

Further, I am, here, wanting to learn how to communicate better, with you human beings, but, again, not necessarily so within this forum. I am, again, using you posters, here, so as to learn how to communicate better, with you human beings, eventually. And, how I want to do this is, for example, when a human being like "yourself" "eodnhoj7" says and writes the word, 'metaphysical', and I then just ask you to clarify what do you mean by the word, 'metaphysical, then when, and if, you provide a clarifying answer, then I am and thus will learn how to communicate better 'with you'.

So, until you provide me with a clarifying answer I am not learning how to communicate better, 'with you'. Did you understand 'this'?
Can you clarify what the word "then" means?
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Re: Provide Your Metaphysics Here Age, If You Desire to be Understood

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Age wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:33 am
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 11:06 pm God can't even learn it through years and years of concentrated effort. Meanwhile, human children can easily learn it. Today we learned something about God (amen).
What was 'it', exactly, "atla" that 'you' and 'others' have, supposedly, learned, 'today'?
Exactly
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Atla wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:03 am
Age wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:33 am
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 11:06 pm God can't even learn it through years and years of concentrated effort. Meanwhile, human children can easily learn it. Today we learned something about God (amen).
What was 'it', exactly, "atla" that 'you' and 'others' have, supposedly, learned, 'today'?
Exactly
Can you ask Age to clarify what he said to you so the rest of us knows what he means?
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 11:27 pm
accelafine wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 9:54 pm So many threads in honour of the odious little creep. More attention than he's ever had in his life. No wonder he hangs around like a foul stench.
Nonsense. If he wants attention then he will have it.
What does that have to do with my comment?
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accelafine wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:42 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 11:27 pm
accelafine wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 9:54 pm So many threads in honour of the odious little creep. More attention than he's ever had in his life. No wonder he hangs around like a foul stench.
Nonsense. If he wants attention then he will have it.
What does that have to do with my comment?
It is irrelevant, go back to your self-righteous anger on the world and continue ranting about how horrible people are while conveniently ignoring you are one of those you complain about.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:29 am
accelafine wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:42 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 11:27 pm

Nonsense. If he wants attention then he will have it.
What does that have to do with my comment?
Nothing, because I'm illiterate **** who can't read.
Honesty is always the best policy.
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accelafine wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 4:49 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:29 am
accelafine wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:42 am

What does that have to do with my comment?
Nothing, because I'm illiterate **** who can't read.
Honesty is always the best policy.
Coming from a Brit that seems a little hypocritical.
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