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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 6:41 am
Alexis, let me walk you through Bloom’s Revised Taxonomy, since you seem to think florid language and cryptic references somehow count as intellectual depth. Spoiler: they don’t.

You’re firmly planted on the bottom rung—Remembering. That’s where you regurgitate old texts, religious fragments, and quotes from Nietzsche like a high school student trying to sound impressive by name-dropping books he hasn’t understood. It’s cute, in a tragic sort of way.

Occasionally, you dabble in Understanding—you paraphrase those quotes and myths in your own words, usually surrounded by layers of fog and metaphor to give the illusion of insight. But that’s where you stall. Hard. Because the next level—Applying—would require you to use ideas in a meaningful, testable way. That would mean stepping into the realm of evidence, logic, and real-world consequences. Terrifying, I know.

Analyzing? Forget it. That would involve dissecting arguments, identifying logical structures, and distinguishing between fantasy and causality. But that would expose your entire house of cards, so no wonder you steer clear.

Evaluating—as in critically assessing claims, weighing evidence, drawing conclusions based on reason? Nope. Not even in the rearview mirror.

And Creating? That’s the summit. That’s where original thought lives—where new, coherent frameworks are built from a foundation of deep understanding. But instead of climbing, you’re too busy reenacting ancient metaphysical puppet shows and calling it “nuance.”

So if you ever want to rise above that bottom rung, here’s the deal: drop the incense, retire the Deuteronomy quotes, and try engaging with reality. You know—cause and effect, falsifiability, observable truths.

But until then, enjoy your spot in the taxonomy’s basement. I hear the acoustics are great for echoing scripture.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 6:41 am These things have been determined since before even Time began, and my theory is that they can be known. Now, in respect to your pagan ancestors and to give glory and a voice to the gods, would you please do the honor of sacrificing a wabbit and examining its liver? for there is an answer; it will be revealed!
In to the movie Troi, Hector already mocked bird signs over 3000 years ago. Be more like Hector please.
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For suddenly, just as the men tried to cross, a fatal bird sign flashed before their eyes, an eagle clutching a monstrous bloody serpent in both talons, still alive, still struggling — it had not lost its fight, writhing back to strike it fanged the chest of its captor right beside the throat — and agonized by the bites the eagle flung it away to earth, dashed it down amidst the milling fighters, loosed a shriek and the bird veered off along the gusting wind.
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This may seem unrelated to the thrust of this important thread, but a few years back on a solo bikepacking trip through the mountainous regions of Peru, I met the Wandering Jew (the “Immortal Jew”, the “Eternal Heretic”), and he bequeathed to me a feather said to have fallen from the wing of the Angel Gabriel …
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 3:04 pm
For suddenly, just as the men tried to cross, a fatal bird sign flashed before their eyes, an eagle clutching a monstrous bloody serpent in both talons, still alive, still struggling — it had not lost its fight, writhing back to strike it fanged the chest of its captor right beside the throat — and agonized by the bites the eagle flung it away to earth, dashed it down amidst the milling fighters, loosed a shriek and the bird veered off along the gusting wind.
And there it is—still on Level One. Still regurgitating. This time it's Homer instead of scripture, but the game hasn’t changed: memorize, recite, sprinkle with drama, and pretend it's profound.

No analysis. No application. No evaluation. Just another shiny quote hauled out like it says something on its own.

You keep tossing these poetic fragments into the arena as if they’re arguments. They’re not. They’re ornamental distractions—linguistic wallpaper. Until you start thinking critically about the ideas behind the words instead of just parroting them, you’re not climbing any taxonomy. You’re just decorating the base of the pyramid.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 3:56 pm This may seem unrelated to the thrust of this important thread, but a few years back on a solo bikepacking trip through the mountainous regions of Peru, I met the Wandering Jew (the “Immortal Jew”, the “Eternal Heretic”), and he bequeathed to me a feather said to have fallen from the wing of the Angel Gabriel …
Of course he did, Alexis. Of course.

And let me guess—he also whispered to you the secret of the universe, taught you how to read entrails by moonlight, and blessed your pannier bags with the scent of sandalwood and ancient wisdom?

This is exactly what happens when someone runs out of arguments but still wants to appear deep: mythical cosplay. You’ve moved from quoting Homer to LARPing through Peruvian mountains collecting divine feathers. Next up: a vision quest guided by Plato’s ghost and a GPS blessed by Yahweh Himself?

You’re not adding insight—you’re curating a traveling museum of mystical nonsense. It's like you’re allergic to reality and overdosing on allegory. Let us know when you return to Earth. Preferably with receipts.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 3:56 pm This may seem unrelated to the thrust of this important thread, but a few years back on a solo bikepacking trip through the mountainous regions of Peru, I met the Wandering Jew (the “Immortal Jew”, the “Eternal Heretic”), and he bequeathed to me a feather said to have fallen from the wing of the Angel Gabriel …
He spoke to me in French — naturally a shock in such a remote place in high-altitude, indigenous Peru. And before I learned who he was and about his 2,000 years of immortal, itinerant penance, his first words I clearly recall even now:
“Le corp humaine pourrait bien n’être qu’une apparance. Il cache notre réalité, il s’épaissit sur notre lumiére ou sur notre ombre.”
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 12:58 am
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 3:56 pm This may seem unrelated to the thrust of this important thread, but a few years back on a solo bikepacking trip through the mountainous regions of Peru, I met the Wandering Jew (the “Immortal Jew”, the “Eternal Heretic”), and he bequeathed to me a feather said to have fallen from the wing of the Angel Gabriel …
He spoke to me in French — naturally a shock in such a remote place in high-altitude, indigenous Peru. And before I learned who he was and about his 2,000 years of immortal, itinerant penance, his first words I clearly recall even now:
“Le corp humaine pourrait bien n’être qu’une apparance. Il cache notre réalité, il s’épaissit sur notre lumiére ou sur notre ombre.”
Why don't people ever learn next week's lottery numbers when they are hallucinating.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 12:58 am
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 3:56 pm This may seem unrelated to the thrust of this important thread, but a few years back on a solo bikepacking trip through the mountainous regions of Peru, I met the Wandering Jew (the “Immortal Jew”, the “Eternal Heretic”), and he bequeathed to me a feather said to have fallen from the wing of the Angel Gabriel …
He spoke to me in French — naturally a shock in such a remote place in high-altitude, indigenous Peru. And before I learned who he was and about his 2,000 years of immortal, itinerant penance, his first words I clearly recall even now:
“Le corp humaine pourrait bien n’être qu’une apparance. Il cache notre réalité, il s’épaissit sur notre lumiére ou sur notre ombre.”
Ah yes, another mystical postcard from the basement of Bloom’s Taxonomy.

Alexis, you seem to think deep thought means literally deep—as in buried under layers of obscure quotes, ancient fables, and foggy metaphors. You’ve mastered Level One: Remembering. Bravo. But I’m curious—what’s your understanding of that quote? Not just the translation—what does it mean? How should your wide-eyed disciples apply it? How should they analyze the implications, evaluate the consequences, and—dare we dream—create something new from it?

Oh, right. You don’t know. You can’t answer any of those questions because you’re just parroting words you think sound profound. You’re not here to contribute—you’re here to bask in the glow of regurgitated grandeur. You’ve confused quoting others with having insight of your own. You think the act of dropping a cryptic line from a ghostly French-speaking immortal earns you reverence. It doesn’t. It earns you an eye-roll and a polite invitation to please, for once, offer something with actual substance.

So how about this, Alexis: instead of yet another page torn from your scrapbook of esoteric nonsense, could you take a moment to actually tell us what you’ve learned from these fables? What wisdom—real, applicable wisdom—do you now possess after all these feathers, ghosts, and echoes?

Or is it just more fog, drifting through Bloom’s basement?
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Bogotá, 5 May, 2025. I slept lightly and was wrapped in fleeting dreams and pleasant visions; they strengthened me wonderfully. With eyes shut, I thought I felt the room full of genii and gods, in whose midst a charming little Eros flew back and forth till suddenly Apollo stood by my bedside and laid his healing hand upon my forehead. I am sure that to-day I did get very much better, and it made me wonder whether the gods are not symbols of our will altogether, representing a sudden eruption of élan vital into the material world, making thought, to a certain extent, the force that determines the form of things. But, undoubtedly, there must be some kind of Absolute. It is strange that, however much I fought against it, I have yet felt and discerned one peculiarity of Greek thought. Is it not conceivable that it is precisely in regard to the knowledge of the highest things in life that the thought of the Greeks, admittedly up till now the greatest people, has been the most profound? At any rate, this direct experience has become so indispensable to me, has grown so spontaneous, that I see only its natural spontaneity; and I perceive distinctly the great gulf between it and all classicism, which, in its essence is something not vital, to have any painful feeling of being dishonest or rationalist.

The spiacevole of PN who plague me are restive of late, and yet manage a tense benignity, through I often wonder how it is achieved, given the fevers that boil in them.

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Isabel should steer clear of you, your psychosis is getting worse just as I predicted. Get your shit together and try to get rid of the hallucinations.

Or alternatively you could befriend attofishpi and Age and seeds, they could give you a few tips on how to hallucinate like a pro.
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Well, I ran that by her. Her response:
”Beautiful hallucinations will get you through times of insane reality better than insane reality will get through times of no beautiful hallucinations.”
Further, she commented with Iberian irony:
“La guia que me dieron al entrar en este triste mundo fue un librito un poco excéntrico, que da consejos perfectamente incongruentes, entonces ¡dilo que lo estoy siguiéndolo al pie de la letra!”
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Atla wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 4:22 am Or alternatively you could befriend attofishpi and Age and seeds, they could give you a few tips on how to hallucinate like a pro.
Ok, but if I really really wanted to go the route of mechanized hallucination I think you might guess to whom I’d apprentice my neurons…
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“La guia que me dieron al entrar en este triste mundo fue un librito un poco excéntrico, que da consejos perfectamente incongruentes, entonces ¡dilo que lo estoy siguiéndolo al pie de la letra!”
Conscience, that odd lil book, is often at loggerheads with the apparent state of affairs.
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