US/Western Culture Shifting

[FlashDangerpants]

So if Trump doesn't repeal and replace Obamacare/ACA in 2025, that will be entirely the fault of the Trump, MAGA, US Conservatives who are undisputed champions then won't it?

Leftists care about "Healthcare", which is mostly consumed and wasted by ill, diseased, obese, minorities with drug-addictions, who are not self-responsible adults. If they were, then they would be Rightists, and against Socialized Medicine and Big Pharma.

Your lagging behind in Politics. The main reason Trump and Conservatives got re-elected, was the 3rd world Immigration issue, and poor economy next. Those two, are the main reasons your side lost.

Is that a yes?

[Wizard22]

Westerners care about 3rd worlder flooding into their towns, communities, neighborhoods, and changing the Demographics forever.

England is becoming Not-England, quickly.

Nobody cares about "Healthcare" right now. So you trying to change the focus off the big problems, is a ruse.

[FlashDangerpants]

You lost in every metric; Trump, MAGA, US Conservatives are the undisputed champions right now. You're grasping for any semblance of salvation.

These winners have won, on every metric. So they are going to do lots of important winning stuff, right? Build a wall, change the constitution to remove birth right citizenship, and end Obamacare, should all be within their grasp. Undisputed champions get to do all that sort of stuff. Right?

[Wizard22]

These winners have won, on every metric. So they are going to do lots of important winning stuff, right? Build a wall, change the constitution to remove birth right citizenship, and end Obamacare, should all be within their grasp. Undisputed champions get to do all that sort of stuff. Right?

I wish, but I'm a Centrist, and I doubt Trump will fulfill most of his promises. At the very least, he will improve America's economy for a short while. That's the best I'd expect from him.

I expect a far-Leftist Liberal lunatic, like yourself, to take another shot at him too. Mossad and Israel also want to see Trump dead, so they can get their war with Iran. Therefore Leftists and Mossad are both in competition now to see who can assassinate Trump first...and Mossad doesn't miss, unlike the first two Leftists who tried. Mossad already killed JFK. So they may very well take down Trump too.

Then all bets are off.

[FlashDangerpants]

These winners have won, on every metric. So they are going to do lots of important winning stuff, right? Build a wall, change the constitution to remove birth right citizenship, and end Obamacare, should all be within their grasp. Undisputed champions get to do all that sort of stuff. Right?

I wish, but I'm a Centrist, and I doubt Trump will fulfill most of his promises. At the very least, he will improve America's economy for a short while. That's the best I'd expect from him.

I expect a far-Leftist Liberal lunatic, like yourself, to take another shot at him too. Mossad and Israel also want to see Trump dead, so they can get their war with Iran. Therefore Leftists and Mossad are both in competition now to see who can assassinate Trump first...and Mossad doesn't miss, unlike the first two Leftists who tried. Mossad already killed JFK. So they may very well take down Trump too.

Then all bets are off.

Quite a lot of antisemitic conspiracy theorising there. You'll need Jacobi to come along and help explain how that's all ok now because of Camus (not the proper Camus, the nazi one... Renaud)

[Wizard22]

Quite a lot of antisemitic conspiracy theorising there. You'll need Jacobi to come along and help explain how that's all ok now because of Camus (not the proper Camus, the nazi one... Renaud)

...your response isn't sounding much like disagreement though...?

[FlashDangerpants]

Quite a lot of antisemitic conspiracy theorising there. You'll need Jacobi to come along and help explain how that's all ok now because of Camus (not the proper Camus, the nazi one... Renaud)

...your response isn't sounding much like disagreement though...?

I definitely don't agree with any of your nazi conspiracy theories. I think you are mad and stupid.

[Wizard22]

I definitely don't agree with any of your nazi conspiracy theories. I think you are mad and stupid.

More Ad Homs as usual...pretty boring.

I hoped your brain was a lot more interesting than you let on in public, seems not the case though.

According to you, two white people choosing to love and marry each-other, is Hitler-Nazi-evil too. So you're irrelevant.

[FlashDangerpants]

I definitely don't agree with any of your nazi conspiracy theories. I think you are mad and stupid.

More Ad Homs as usual...pretty boring.

I hoped your brain was a lot more interesting than you let on in public, seems not the case though.

According to you, two white people choosing to love and marry each-other, is Hitler-Nazi-evil too. So you're irrelevant.

There was no argument to be avoided by calling you a name so there was no ad hominem.

There's nothing more really to bother with. You opened up the thread with big talk about Trump's victory being a major event. But now you just think he'll do very little except a short term boost to the economy. You deflated as soon as I asked for details of what Trump would achieve and now you basically agree with me that it won't amount to much.

I already won your debate, you gave it all up.

[Wizard22]

Trump's big win was culturally. His victory represents a huge loss for Liberalism, Leftism, and Marxism, all of which you support and represent.

You're confused, because you don't seem to understand or realize it, yet...

I believe his Inauguration will make it seem more 'real', apparent, and immediate to you.


You've lost the popular vote, thereby the popular consensus. Your views are now MINORITY opinions, not the majority.

[FlashDangerpants]

Trump's big win was culturally. His victory represents a huge loss for Liberalism, Leftism, and Marxism

Only if he actually does something. Which we both don't think he will. Vance isn't going to win a national election is he? So one more term of nothing happening will just be followed by a return to business as usual.

[Wizard22]

Only if he actually does something. Which we both don't think he will. Vance isn't going to win a national election is he? So one more term of nothing happening will just be followed by a return to business as usual.

I don't think he actually does need to do anything though. Your positions, philosophy, and opinions, being in the minority now, is itself the brunt of the victory.

Leftists mostly rely on group-think, herd psychology, to do their work for them. Without this, you are no longer on the "Right Side of History", and actually have to fight/argue for your convictions...whatever that may be.

Liberalism is not used to being on the Defensive, not since a long time ago.

[FlashDangerpants]

Seems like you are celebrating a victory where the only reward for said victory is the desultory little victory dance you are doing to such little effect right now. This is boring.

[Wizard22]

Seems like you are celebrating a victory where the only reward for said victory is the desultory little victory dance you are doing to such little effect right now. This is boring.

Don't worry, it'll get more exciting again quickly, LOL