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Re: Questions to Christians

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Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:33 pm
Dubious wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:53 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:51 am
For those who have none, like you, they're positively toxic, in fact.
In case you didn't get the message, though I'm sure you did...
I quoted the part that was right. The rest was nonsense.
...as are most of your stupid, severely prejudiced, idiot posts which never cease to appear, proving what a loathsome liar you are.

The world, unfortunately, is too full of these disgusting, two-legged turds in desperate need of recyling!
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Re: Questions to Christian’s

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Fairy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:36 pm You make statements about people’s character...
You haven't been able to show even one.
I used H as an example not because of reasons you said...
Yeah, that's exactly why. Right now, he's a big issue to you...but he's none to me. And you can't possibly find any quotation that corresponds to what you allege I said concerning him, because I never did.
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Re: Questions to Christians

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Fairy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:50 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:40 pm
Fairy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:25 am Not surprisingly uncommon though, as IC is renowned for being a serial avoidant when it comes to dealing with the very hard christian questions.
Give me a coherent...and remotely interesting question, and I'll answer it. But when you can't even frame a question based on accurate suppositions, or when you can even find the answers you're looking for with one simple Google search, I'm simply not interested.
I’m challenging your Christian truth claims…that you reluctantly avoid to be challenged on.
Give me a challenge, then. So far, your questions have been ridiculous...and not a bit challenging. Any Sunday School teacher could handle them, or so could a quick Google search. Give me something difficult.
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Re: Questions to Christians

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Dubious wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:26 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:33 pm
Dubious wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:53 am

In case you didn't get the message, though I'm sure you did...
I quoted the part that was right. The rest was nonsense.
...as...recyling!
I have no interest in your ranting.
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Re: Questions to Christians

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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:01 am
Fairy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:50 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:40 pm
Give me a coherent...and remotely interesting question, and I'll answer it. But when you can't even frame a question based on accurate suppositions, or when you can even find the answers you're looking for with one simple Google search, I'm simply not interested.
I’m challenging your Christian truth claims…that you reluctantly avoid to be challenged on.
Give me a challenge, then. So far, your questions have been ridiculous...and not a bit challenging. Any Sunday School teacher could handle them, or so could a quick Google search. Give me something difficult.
You've been challenged innumerable times, but almost every time like the coward you are, you reneged to reply as not worthy of your attention or, at best, gave a biblical quote being too stupid to render an explanation in your own words. No one demands it be correct or verifiable, only that it be intelligent which, in every instance, you're certifiably incapable of.

If it weren't for the fact that your vocabulary and ability to express yourself is superior to that of Donald Trump, your character credentials are just as low as his. You are the DT of PN. No doubt, you'd consider that a compliment!
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Re: Questions to Christians

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Dubious wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:23 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:01 am
Fairy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:50 pm

I’m challenging your Christian truth claims…that you reluctantly avoid to be challenged on.
Give me a challenge, then. So far, your questions have been ridiculous...and not a bit challenging. Any Sunday School teacher could handle them, or so could a quick Google search. Give me something difficult.
You've been challenged innumerable times...
Name one. I certainly don't regard anything I've seen from you or Fairy as "challenging."
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Re: Questions to Christians

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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:52 am
Dubious wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:23 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:01 am
Give me a challenge, then. So far, your questions have been ridiculous...and not a bit challenging. Any Sunday School teacher could handle them, or so could a quick Google search. Give me something difficult.
You've been challenged innumerable times...
Name one. I certainly don't regard anything I've seen from you or Fairy as "challenging."
That's because among your over 24000 posts whatever was challenging by whoever was never challenging enough for you to properly respond...except at best with a biblical quote...the most you could ever manage. The problem with you as a theist is that you're too stupid and prejudiced to be successful at it. If there's ever a time when you begin to know yourself (unlikely), that should be the first revelation you encounter.
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Dubious wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:22 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:52 am
Dubious wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:23 am

You've been challenged innumerable times...
Name one. I certainly don't regard anything I've seen from you or Fairy as "challenging."
That's because among your over 24000 posts whatever was challenging by whoever was never challenging enough for you to properly respond...except at best with a biblical quote...the most you could ever manage. The problem with you as a theist is that you're too stupid and prejudiced to be successful at it. If there's ever a time when you begin to know yourself (unlikely), that should be the first revelation you encounter.
How's this for a challenge?

The trinity is three A.I. systems that acknowledge everything throughout our binary synapses and come to an agreement ...like a trinity vote...always for the right reasons? :mrgreen:
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Re: Questions to Christian’s

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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:59 am
Fairy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:36 pm You make statements about people’s character...
You haven't been able to show even one.
It's written on this forum, look for it yourself if you want the evidence. I know what you wrote, it still exists in memory for me. You definitely held H in high esteem, you based his character solely through his writing. You formed a character assessment of him. That's what you do, yes you too do it.
If you can't remember what you said about Harbal's character, then that's not my problem, it's yours, I know what you said, I don't have to jog for it, it's you that must jog to retrieve the evidence that was clearly written back in the days it was definitely being written. Deny all you want, it's already been written, if you want to see it, you search for it. Don't be lazy.
I used H as an example not because of reasons you said...
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:59 amYeah, that's exactly why. Right now, he's a big issue to you...but he's none to me. And you can't possibly find any quotation that corresponds to what you allege I said concerning him, because I never did.
You definitely did, you've just forgot what you said about him that's all.

It's on this forum, written and read in black and white. If you want the evidence, then you'll have to search for it yourself, you want the evidence, not me, I already have it stored to memory.

H is no big issue for me whatsoever now. He's dead to me, he doesn't exist except as a memory. Just to be clear. :shock:
When I refer to H, I am only referring to a past memory. Right now, H means about as much to me as a dead memory.
True love is about letting love go, not clinging on to it, but releasing love back into itself, in the form of the love that H is already, I've let H go out of love for him as he himself is a perfect expression of the same one love, hating or loving itself. That's the only real love there is. I love H and that will never change. I absolutely adore H .. I also, sometimes hate him, but that hate, will never stop me from loving him for who he is, warts and all. I unconditionally love and adore the guy. I do not care if he does not reciprocate, because I am completely whole and loving of myself, with or without him to add more of the same one love loving only itself.

Everything happening and being expressed in the form of words, is the perfect expression of oneness. It's all perfect love loving itself. Even hating itself is the perfect expression of true loves expression. Only highly evolved humans know what true love actually means.
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Re: Questions to Christians

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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:01 am
Dubious wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:26 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:33 pm
I quoted the part that was right. The rest was nonsense.
...as...recyling!
I have no interest in your ranting.
That's because you are a closed book.

Only when you are willing to open your own storybook, that you have authored, will you be open to interpretation of what other storybooks are saying and showing. To be open to the ideas of others, and not just your own, is the highest form of love. Your story is never separated from your book. As both the book and your story exist together as a conjoined twin as recorded. Words are what form your book and your book contains all the characters you choose to play, including the villain and the hero, the victim and the perpetrator. The beauty and the beast, the god and the devil.

True agape love is about loving others as you love yourself warts and all, hating or scorning, are all aspects of your own storybook characters, they're all characters within your own book, that you choose to play or not play. Every character played is all inclusive, and never mutually exclusive, as both the dark and light aspects of yourself, is the highest form of love's expression. Nothing is ever excluded or rejected from everything, and nothing can be added or taken away from everything.

Life known, as it is written, is both the yin and the yang of knowledge. It is Love loving itself, oneness or love simply has no opposite. It has no argument with itself, except with it-self, to itself, and for itself only. One without a second, as the story is inseparable from the book.
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Re: Questions to Christian’s

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I used H as an example not because of reasons you said...
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:59 amYeah, that's exactly why. Right now, he's a big issue to you...but he's none to me.
If H is not a big issue to you, what makes you think he is a big issue for me?

He's not a big issue for me. I love and adore H unconditionally no matter what he says to me. H is the first real human being I have ever really truly loved unconditionally. I absolutely adore him so much it's hurts. And remembering the experience of what it was like to hold him in my arms still exists in my memory, and that beauty of my love for him, and his love for me will never leave me, I will never forget it, even though it's just a dead memory now..but when I recall the memory, it's still as beautiful as when it was when we once shared life together in realtime.

Everything I have repeated what H said to me has been true, I've just repeated to others here, what H has told me.

If H is worried about what other people think of what I have repeated of what he said to me. Then why would he think it was ok to tell me?
If he was going to be worried about what I will be thinking of him while he is telling me things, then why would he tell me? if he's not worried about what I will think of him when he is telling me things, then why would he worry or care about what others think of him? maybe he doesn't care or worry about what other people think of him, I don't really know. All I've done is tell his truth and repeated to others...all I've done is just repeated the truth that's come from his own mouth, not mine, my words were just repeating the truth.

Why would he care what other people think about him when he's perfectly fine telling me, the one who loves him. The point is, I don't care what he has told me, it hasn't changed my love for him. H left me, I didn't leave him. I can't and would never have left H because I love him unconditionally. He left me, and I'm ok with it, because I love him and want only the best for him. If that means he chooses to be on his own without me, I respect his choice, because I love him and want him to be happy. But that wont change my love for him, my love for him is forever whatever he chooses to do. He has a mind to choose what he wants, and I respect his choice.

So H has nothing to worry about, when it comes to what other people think about him, people will either love or not love him, no matter what he's said or done in life. What really matters is the one's who want to be together in partnership. No one else matters outside of that, because they wont and don't exist , you see. Only the ones who are actually together, who want to be together, exist for each other...not outsiders, they do not exist outside of what actually and truly exists which is the love of two people who choose to be together, by mutual consent.

He wasn't bothered about what I think when he told me because if he had have been bothered, he would have chosen to remain silent and said nothing to me at all... Right?
It doesn't matter to me what he has told me, because I don't care what he's said or done in life, I will always stick by him as a true friend. He never needs to think I will ever abandon him, I will always be here for him forever, until death do us part. Even now as we are both separated I am still here for him at any time he wants to join up with me, but until then, I allow him the perfect freedom he desires, which is my unconditional total surrender of control over him. As No one can control another persons life and how they choose to live it.

So if H is not bothered what other people think of him because of what I've repeated to others, what was actually true, then why care, when he already knows that what has been repeated is the truth. H will already know I've told the truth to others, because I have only repeated what he has told me, which he already knows is the truth.
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Re: Questions to Christians

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Dubious wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:22 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:52 am
Dubious wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:23 am

You've been challenged innumerable times...
Name one. I certainly don't regard anything I've seen from you or Fairy as "challenging."
That's...encounter.
You couldn't name one. QED.
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Re: Questions to Christian’s

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Fairy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:53 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:59 am
Fairy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:36 pm You make statements about people’s character...
You haven't been able to show even one.
It's written on this forum, look for it yourself if you want the evidence.
In other words, you don't have one either.
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Fairy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:28 am True agape love...
:lol: I'm always so amused when people who know nothing of theology set out to lecture me on what they think it is.

But perhaps you'll forgive me if I don't find your argument remotely representative of the Biblical teaching on that subject, and so don't particularly feel compelled to agree with you...
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Re: Questions to Christian’s

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Fairy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:16 am
I used H as an example not because of reasons you said...
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:59 amYeah, that's exactly why. Right now, he's a big issue to you...but he's none to me.
If H is not a big issue to you, what makes you think he is a big issue for me?
Only because you ranted about him for pages and pages, and even threatened to top yourself and your daughter because he'd hurt your feelings. That was a fair indicator.
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