A recent "MIRACLE"

[Age]

Okay, 'this' is what 'you' 'think', but there is not much here that 'we' do see, and agree, upon.

That I can agree upon.

Human being are fallible.

At least 'we' agree on 'this'.

We're on a roll.

When you say here, 'are no longer used', in what 'period' are 'you' referring to, exactly?

I am speaking of the present. My present is year 2024.

It is good that you acknowledged that it was 'your present', as it clarifies just how narrowed 'your view/s' really are here.

Pedophile, for example, stopped have the old neutral to postive sense it had earlier in the mid 1900s.

Why do you 'look at' so many things in such a 'negative', 'neutral', or 'positive' way only?

When did the definition of that word 'pedophile' 'stop' being what it is?

Also, are you even aware that while a definition, or 'sense' of a word, is still in existence, then that definition, and sense, has not stopped being nor stopped existing?

you also appear to, still, not yet know that different people use different definitions. So, obviously, what you interpret as a 'negative', 'positive', or 'neutral' connotation or sense might well not be all. In fact what you presume another is saying, and meaning, could be absolutely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect. And, considering the fact that you very rarely seek out clarification, and thus clarity, from others, and just base 'your understanding and knowledge' on 'your present only', which you acknowledged as being the year 2024 only, then what you are perceiving and interpreting can be absolutely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect. As you have shown and proved it is many, many times over in this forum.

Furthermore, 'your present', which is just some 2024 years after some perceived event, is not really that much of a 'time period' to be basing much off at all. In fact with such a narrowed, and even closed, perspective and view of things, which you are showing and proving here by the way, then it is no wonder that you really do misinterpret, misunderstand, and miss as much as you obviously have, and do, here.

Also, what is/are 'the meaning/s', exactly, which you are claiming, and believing, that I have 'brought back' here?

I think you will remember the interaction with attophishi where you referred to him as a pedophile and he reacted negatively. You referred it as meaning something along the lines of merely someone who loves children. He and people in the time this is being written not longer use it in that sense.

Really?

If yes, then what is the only sense that you people, in the time this is being written, use that word?

And, if you do not clarify this here, then why not?

Also, I think you will find, that is; if you ever 'delve into' and 'looked into' things fully here, that a huge reason why you adult human beings, in the time this is being written, seem to be continually arguing, bickering, fighting, and even killing each other is because you do not 'listen' to each other, properly and Correctly, and just 'hear' things from your own personal perspective and definitions, senses, or connotations for the words that get used.

But, then again, this is something else that you do not accept, and do disagree upon with me.

Once, and if ever, this is 'clarified', then, and only then, 'we', again, will have some thing to 'look at', and 'discuss'. But, until then there is, relatively, nothing to even 'look at', and 'discuss' here.

That's only because you never seem to remember earlier events. This leads to other people having to remind you of everything.

you, still, do not seem to have yet realized that when you answer and clarify in a response, and you also claim in the exact same post that I do not remember, that I had not yet read the answer/clarification. Which is absolutely hilarious to read back and see just how often you have done this.

It is like your views and perspective of things is so narrowed, that they exist in the immediate present only, you are then capable of seeing and realizing that I have not yet read your response.

Obviously, I cannot yet 'remember' some thing when you have only 'clarified' 'it' in the exact same post, and I had obviously not yet read it.

IOW to answer the questions, often before you will answer questions, means having to remind you of things you have experience and/or done. So, what happens is, often, someone asks you a clarifying question. This leads to you asking them a number, often a lot, of clarifying questions before you can answer or will answer.

Well obviously because you human beings have and use so many different definitions, and even have and use conflicting and completely opposing definitions for the exact same word/s, then I just like to seek out and obtain actual clarification and clarity first. That way I can never be Wrong nor Incorrect. Like you human beings continually have been and are here, when this was being written.

As can be clearly seen and proved absolutely True throughout this forum here.

But, you, obviously, much prefer to just keep assuming and presuming things here, instead.

Which means that other people end up answering many clarifying questions in the hope of getting and answer to their original question or clarifying question.

One day you might come-to-realize why I actually do this.

Although I have informed of why many times over, you, still, do not yet recognize, and realize.

you, obviously, prefer to just keep 'seeing' it as a very 'negative' thing, and some thing I 'should' stop doing, in 'your present view and belief'.

Give that answering clarifying questions in dialogue with you can easily lead to more clarifying questions, since we tend to answer with words, and then each word can lead to a new clarifying question, one can begin to wonders if one will be clarifying, reminding, explaining for unbelievably long periods of time before getting one's original question answered.

Once you human beings, also, comprehend, learn, and understand that your own personal opinions of what 'a word' and 'words' means, which can obviously all be very different and even opposing, and conflicting, then you will realize that without 'clarification' being actually sought out, and obtained, then there is no wonder left why you adult human beings have been and are in a seemingly continual state of 'conflict' within and among "yourselves".

you all obviously, well in the days when this is being written anyway, do not yet, consciously, know 'the irrefutable and only answers' to Life, and to living, yet here you all are 'in conflict' with each other, and even within "your" own personal 'selves', which, again, is because of the different definitions that you each, personally, use for different words.

See, once 'clarification', and thus 'clarity', is sought out, and obtained, then, obviously, 'understanding' is obtained, and with True 'understanding' of "yourselves" is, also, gained, and known, then living in True peace, and harmony, can Truly begin.

And, obviously, 'understanding', itself, is only gained through and from obtaining actual 'clarity' first.

I experienced this a few times mysels, back in the days when I was more patient with you and more willing to clarify and explain. Sometimes the process, after the investment of quite a bit of time and energy on my part, would meet a dead end, when you would say that you were not going to give the answer.

LOL you have spent far more time re-repeating this 'same claim' of yours here, instead of just seeking out and obtaining actual 'clarity' with and from me.

Also, you are, still, stuck in and on the 'your current or present belief' that I said that I was not going to give 'the answer'.

LOL you have, once again, taken some thing I have said, and meant, out of absolute context, 'believed' that your own personal context, and/or presumption, is the one and only true and right one, only, and thus then only 'see' what you want 'to see' in my writings here.

What you are showing and actually doing here "iwannaplato" is actually proving, irrefutably, for me, what I will be expressing, saying, and illustrating in full detail.

Once it was just not the right time, according to you, for that information to come out - which could have been pointed out much earlier. Once you decided what my motives were and did not approve of them and so stopped a process after quite an investment of time on my part.

you are whining and complaining about 'poor old you' having so-called 'invested time', on your part, in the past, 'on me', but have actually spend far 'more time' whinging and complaining about that relatively nothing period of time compared to 'the time' that you seemingly continually spend going over 'that one' previous time'.

Look "iwannaplato" you continually make accusations and claims 'about me', as you are doing once again here in this thread, but which on just about every time I have you to provide just some thing that backs up and support 'your claims' 'about me' you never have.

That you do not like me pointing out this irrefutable Fact is obvious, and I know that me doing this absolutely irritates you, but this is just what is going to continually happen when you continually keep making accusations and claims 'about me' here, like you are.

There were other instances where after clarifying and clarifying it never got around to you clarifying.

Okay.

So, I lost interest.

This was, and is, absolutely obvious.

And, a point, which I keep highlighting 'about you'.

Here, you used an outdated use of a word, pedophile.

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'outdated'

What this means is that if absolutely any one uses a word in a way that "iwannaplato" does not use in the 'present time period' of what it calls the year 2024, then it will always be 'the other' is has and is using the 'wrong definition', 'wrong sense', or 'wrong connotation'.

Thus why it will always be better, or more beneficial, to 'always' check completely and clarify what definition/s "iwannaplato" is using for the words that it uses.

Yet, and contradictory, "iwannaplato" also 'believes' that a huge reason why you adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, are, still, misunderstanding each other and still lost and in confusion and in conflict with one another, and even with "yourselves" individually, is not because of a lack of understanding of what the actual context and definition of the words being used among "yourselves".

This one is, still, absolutely nowhere near fully comprehending and understanding just how much importance, and power, the words, and their definitions, have 'over' you, human beings.

You could of course have adapted to current usage, but instead of, upon finding out or perhaps already knowing, that the word when labeling someone who is not a pedophile according to current and actually quite long standing usage, you opted to defend you use and even condescend to the person who did not like that label.

So, once again, this one only wants to 'look at' and 'see' things in its own 'current present', alone.

Which explains why these people are taking so very, very long to 'catch up', 'see' and 'comprehend' what the actual Truth of things are, in Life.

Now you want to play around with devious.

Do I?

You claimed you wanted to learn how to communcate better. Well, if it is people at the time this is being written you want to learn how to communicate with better, perhaps you'll consider adjusting your language use to the time and also being respectful in that language.

Why did you even begin to presume, and then end up concluding, and also believing, this absolutely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect assumption and claim of yours here, especially considering what I have already informed you of, and only many occasions?

If you are trying to learn how to communicate better with someone else, then you don't really understand how to get better at communicating.

How is this meant to logically follow, exactly? That is; if it was meant to.

The above could have been clearer. There are several patterns here.

Using words with outdated meanings.

Why do you find that your own personal, 'current', 'present time' is the important one, only, especially in regards to human beings collectively?

Also, have you ever considered that your usage of words, and meanings, back in the olden days', when this was being written, are extremely outdated?

The gauntlet of clarifying questions that we need to answer before, often, you can answer, if you ever do, our question.
A kind of stubborness. You're going to use your word, for example, in an outdated way, even if it offends people.

I cannot follow this, clearly. And, the last part of this is absolutely False and Wrong, also.

One tip would be: if you would like to communicate better with people, start with the main meanings of words in the year 2024, especially if the modern meaning of a word you want to use is insulting.

LOL 'modern'

The days when this was being are seen as the 'olden days', especially considering how much confusion and conflict there, really, was among you adult human beings, back in those 'olden days' when this was being written.

Once again, and for the very slow of comprehending and understanding like "iwannaplato" is obviously showing and revealing here.

I am not, necessarily, wanting to communicate better with you posters here. One more, I am using you posters here to learn how to communicate better with my targeted audience. And, once again, you posters here are not, necessarily, my targeted audience at all.

And, further to this is the fact that why would absolutely any one want to start with the main meaning used in the year so-called '2024' when back in those 'olden days' you human beings were, relatively, continually 'in conflict' and even killing each other just because of a few tiny little 'misunderstandings'. Which, again, arose because of just a lack of 'clarity' on how words, and their usage and definition, has just not yet been obtained among "yourselves" and even with "oneself"?

Another: See if you yourself can take more responsibility to learn current usage, so that you can reduce the burden on others.

Why do you assume, and believe, that I do not, already, know what you call, and consider to be 'current' usage?

I don't think you intend things to work out this way,

And, 'what way' is 'this way', here, exactly?

Not that you will ever clarify.

Also, and by the way, how things are 'working out' here, is, exactly, how I intended, and also are wanting.

but given that you don't seem to remember things that have happened or even that you have said.

you continually claim that I do not seem to remember things and especially more so when I point out and highlight the Fact when you have not clarified some thing or have not backed up and supported your claim, and/or accusation, here.

Which you believe works 'very well', in 'your favor' here, right?

But, just so you are fully aware, what you are doing here can be 'seen' as trying to very deceptive, and thus very devious also.

See, instead of 'just clarifying' and just continually claiming, and blaming, that 'the other' is forgetful is not something that a Truly 'mature' and 'responsible' would do.

In addition, you don't seem to recognize approximations: for example, you never ask 'Do you mean when I said____________?'

What do you mean here, exactly, when you said this?

And, 'What do you mean when I said that?'

In other words you join in the process of finding the past event or thing you said.

Do I?

if yes, then will you provide actually examples of when I, supposedly, do this?

If no, then why not?

Now perhaps you only can connect to exact quotes and if it is something close, you then have absolutely no memory of it.

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The accusation, and claim, of me having absolutely no memory at all of things here, continues.

If what you say you cannot clarify, exactly, with the 'exact quotes', and thus you will not clarify, exactly, but only with 'something close', then so be it. But, do not be at all surprised if I ask you a serious of clarifying, and maybe challenging, questions to obtain and gain actual 'clarity', from you.

If so, there's not much you can do.

And, if you cannot, then there is no much you can do, correct?

It is a skill most people have to some degree and it seems to a higher degree than you do.

But, let 'us' not forget that this so-called 'skill' that you are going on about here is part of the reason why you human beings, back when this was being written, were, still, somewhat lost and confused, in Life, about Life, Itself.

Despite not being able to do anything in that case, you could recognize that because of this, communicating with you requires much more work that communicating with other people who can remember approximations and do know current usage of words.

Also, do not forget if you had spend half of the time just being Truly open and honest here, while wanting to change, for the better, instead of spending so much of 'your time' 'trying to' criticize, ridicule, humiliate or just down right 'deflect', then 'you' would already be a much better and more knowledgeable person, by 'now'.

But, do not let this fact change you in any way from wanting to hold, absolutely, on to 'your own personal 'current' beliefs' while using 'your own personal 'current' usage of words and their definitions'.

This might reduce the negative interpretations you put on people when they opt not to clarify.

Once again, you seem not to be able to comprehend and understand the irrefutable Fact that why consider, in 'your 'current present' time', in the one year of so-called 2024 only, that what you 'interpret' as being so-called 'negative' in 'my actual words' may not be 'negative' absolutely at all.

And that without seeking out and obtaining actual clarification, and thus clarity, you will, literally, 'remain none the wiser'.

Now, you are absolutely free to choose, or opt, not to clarify, and why you continually or any time make 'this choice' is already absolutely fully understood, and known, by me.

Oh, and once again, for you, I have never ever had a so-called 'negative interpretation' in regards to your inability, or choice not, to clarify.

So, again, please do not clarify, nor back and support, your claims, if you choose not to or opt not to. But, not doing so is showing just how much, or how little, you really know, and understand, here.

I know you think you don't do this, but in the current usage of English, you do.

Once again, if this is what you believe I do, then this is exactly what you 'will see' me doing.

You and I have disagreed about many things. I'm not sure you realize how much I have adjusted my communication, at times, to your specific needs, needs I don't encounter anywhere near this degree with other people.

I do not care one iota if you have so-called 'adjusted' 'your communication' or not. Just in case you were, or are, interested.

I have also given you a lot of feedback in a neutral form, not just in my cranky responses to what I experience as your judgmental posts.

Once again, for the slow of learning, what one 'experiences' is not necessarily what is actually happening, and occurring.

Can you and do you comprehend and understand this fact?

I have also, by the way, provided you will a lot of responses, in neutral form, to what I experience as you very judgmental posts. But, so what?

You may well have clarifying questions about the above. I would prefer not to answer those questions.

Great, then just do not answer them, nor absolutely any other one throughout this forum, or even throughout your whole little left life. If this is what you would, really, prefer.

Are there any other things that you 'would prefer', which you would like to mention here and let the readers here know of?

it is interesting trying to explain what I experience with you, but only up to a point.

Okay. And, if this is what you find 'interesting', but only up to 'a point', then, again, okay.

Do you find anything else 'interesting', in Life?

Also, that you are so-called 'trying to explain' what you experience 'with me' here, then this is absolutely perfect and great, 'for me', as 'you' doing so, is 'working' 'much better' in regards to what I will be saying, and revealing.

The above is not intended to be negative or even critical

I never ever took it as such.

but rather to be useful or at least to give you an idea of the patterns I and other experience.

Have you considered, and realized, 'your own patterns' here?

If no, then there is a saying, which goes some thing like, ' Look at one's own self before you 'look at' others '.

This is said so that you people will improve "yourselves" before you begin to even start 'judging' others. And, because it is only after one has improved "them" 'self" then it is that they can, successfully help in improving so-called 'others'.

If you want help with clarification, I would suggest talking to someone in your real face to face life, someone you can allow to look at your posts here, read the interactions and see if they can understand this post.

The ones who are 'looking at', and 'seeing', the actual 'interactions' here, are 'understanding' this post, as well as others here.

Somehow who does not have the same approach to communication that you have.

I suggest that you also take our interactions here to someone, and find out, and see, what response/s they give you.

Also, and by the way, do you think or believe that the response/s that you would get 'now', from the people/s in 'your present time', would be the same response/s people in completely 'other times' would provide you with?

[Age]

Here 'we' have
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Not 'we' just you, now go away.

So, this one believes, absolutely, that what exists here, is 'me', and, absolutely human beings like itself.

Which says far more Truth than it first realized, and believed.

[Atla]

So, this one believes, absolutely
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I don't, now fuck off

[Age]

So, this one believes, absolutely
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I don't, now fuck off

So, 'now' this one, very laughingly, believes, absolutely, that it does not believe, absolutely.

Therefore, the contradictions and hypocrisy, from this one, continue.

[Atla]

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get lost

[Age]

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get lost

Really, is this all you have got here?

[Atla]

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Go away

[Age]

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Go away

Certainly looks so.