Creation - Evolution

[Atla]

So, instead of just clarifying you, once again, resort to deflection, and deception.

To "atla" cause and effect is in everything, but not everything is created, nor evolves.

And, people wondered why they were, still, looking for 'the answers'.

Your hallucinations aren't answers. Prove that your hallucinations are true - oh wait it's been thoroughly proven that you're incapable to do so.

This is here is a prime example of one confirming their own made up hallucinations true. This here is 'confirmation bias' at its best.

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

Okay. The more you keep saying this, the more proved true it is, to you.

To "atla" it is an absolute impossibility for me to prove any of those things.

And, for the absolute proof of this all one has to do is just ask "atla".

Still nothing, the emperor is naked

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

[Age]

What do you mean by 'now'? Everything has always been about your hallucinating and god-psychosis.

So, absolutely everything in the whole Universe has, supposedly, always been about my, supposed and alleged, 'hallucinating' and so-called 'god-psychosis', which is, obviously, an 'hallucination' and 'psychosis' in and of itself.

It's just a nature of the beast that you hallucinate too much and have too much of a god-psychosis to comprehend this.

See, how this one will not just answer and clarify, but will, instead, keep deflecting and thus keep deceiving here.

This is a fact:
You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

See how when people keep re-repeating something, then they start believing it more and more.

And, it does not matter one iota how False or Wrong the belief is, the more they keep "telling themselves" that 'it' is true, then the more that they believe that 'it' is true.

This one has actually reached 'the point' where it now believes that it is an absolute fact that I am absolutely totally incapable of proving these things here.

Yet these things have already been proved, irrefutably, True.

It's a fact. You could try to prove any of your beliefs any time, but all you are able to do is misuse words, misunderstand concepts, and hint at your open-minded hallucinations.

So, 'now' besides "atla" believing that I am absolutely incapable of proving those things "atla" also believes that all I am able to do is 'misuse words', 'misunderstand concepts', and so-call 'hint at my so-called 'open-minded' hallucinations', while saying and claiming this as though it does not 'misuse words', nor 'misunderstand concepts', nor 'have its own hallucinations'.

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

It is said that it is best to keep re-repeating things as 'a mantra', then that way those things can become true, well for that one anyway.

[Atla]

So, absolutely everything in the whole Universe has, supposedly, always been about my, supposed and alleged, 'hallucinating' and so-called 'god-psychosis', which is, obviously, an 'hallucination' and 'psychosis' in and of itself.


See, how this one will not just answer and clarify, but will, instead, keep deflecting and thus keep deceiving here.


See how when people keep re-repeating something, then they start believing it more and more.

And, it does not matter one iota how False or Wrong the belief is, the more they keep "telling themselves" that 'it' is true, then the more that they believe that 'it' is true.

This one has actually reached 'the point' where it now believes that it is an absolute fact that I am absolutely totally incapable of proving these things here.

Yet these things have already been proved, irrefutably, True.

It's a fact. You could try to prove any of your beliefs any time, but all you are able to do is misuse words, misunderstand concepts, and hint at your open-minded hallucinations.

So, 'now' besides "atla" believing that I am absolutely incapable of proving those things "atla" also believes that all I am able to do is 'misuse words', 'misunderstand concepts', and so-call 'hint at my so-called 'open-minded' hallucinations', while saying and claiming this as though it does not 'misuse words', nor 'misunderstand concepts', nor 'have its own hallucinations'.

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

It is said that it is best to keep re-repeating things as 'a mantra', then that way those things can become true, well for that one anyway.

And once Age has shown that it's a fact that

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

[Age]

Your hallucinations aren't answers. Prove that your hallucinations are true - oh wait it's been thoroughly proven that you're incapable to do so.

This is here is a prime example of one confirming their own made up hallucinations true. This here is 'confirmation bias' at its best.

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

Okay. The more you keep saying this, the more proved true it is, to you.

To "atla" it is an absolute impossibility for me to prove any of those things.

And, for the absolute proof of this all one has to do is just ask "atla".

Still nothing, the emperor is naked

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

And, "atla" keeps believes that it is an absolute impossibility for me to prove any of these things here.

[Atla]

This is here is a prime example of one confirming their own made up hallucinations true. This here is 'confirmation bias' at its best.


Okay. The more you keep saying this, the more proved true it is, to you.

To "atla" it is an absolute impossibility for me to prove any of those things.

And, for the absolute proof of this all one has to do is just ask "atla".

Still nothing, the emperor is naked

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

And, "atla" keeps believes that it is an absolute impossibility for me to prove any of these things here.

I don't have absolute beliefs, just like I didn't have any the last 273 times

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

[Age]

It's a fact. You could try to prove any of your beliefs any time, but all you are able to do is misuse words, misunderstand concepts, and hint at your open-minded hallucinations.

So, 'now' besides "atla" believing that I am absolutely incapable of proving those things "atla" also believes that all I am able to do is 'misuse words', 'misunderstand concepts', and so-call 'hint at my so-called 'open-minded' hallucinations', while saying and claiming this as though it does not 'misuse words', nor 'misunderstand concepts', nor 'have its own hallucinations'.

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

It is said that it is best to keep re-repeating things as 'a mantra', then that way those things can become true, well for that one anyway.

And once Age has shown that it's a fact that

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

See how when one believes something is true, then they also see it 'as fact'.

So, there is 'now' absolutely nothing anyone could do to show and prove otherwise, because what this one is 'now' 'currently' believing is true as 'progressed' to have 'now' become 'a fact'.

[Atla]

So, 'now' besides "atla" believing that I am absolutely incapable of proving those things "atla" also believes that all I am able to do is 'misuse words', 'misunderstand concepts', and so-call 'hint at my so-called 'open-minded' hallucinations', while saying and claiming this as though it does not 'misuse words', nor 'misunderstand concepts', nor 'have its own hallucinations'.


It is said that it is best to keep re-repeating things as 'a mantra', then that way those things can become true, well for that one anyway.

And once Age has shown that it's a fact that

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

See how when one believes something is true, then they also see it 'as fact'.

So, there is 'now' absolutely nothing anyone could do to show and prove otherwise, because what this one is 'now' 'currently' believing is true as 'progressed' to have 'now' become 'a fact'.

I don't have absolute beliefs, just like I didn't have any the last 274 times

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

[Age]

Still nothing, the emperor is naked

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

And, "atla" keeps believes that it is an absolute impossibility for me to prove any of these things here.

I don't have absolute beliefs, just like I didn't have any the last 273 times

Yet it absolutely believes the below is absolutely true.

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

And, as "iwannaplato" would call this one now, this one is an idiot for not believing what it claims is true.

[Atla]

And, "atla" keeps believes that it is an absolute impossibility for me to prove any of these things here.

I don't have absolute beliefs, just like I didn't have any the last 273 times

Yet it absolutely believes the below is absolutely true.

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

And, as "iwannaplato" would call this one now, this one is an idiot for not believing what it claims is true.

I don't have absolute beliefs, just like I didn't have any the last 275 times. You have no idea about how IWP thinks either.

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

[Sculptor]

Okay, If you say and believe so, then it must be so, right?


Why do you believe that this is absolutely true "sculptor"?

Also, how is asking you clarifying questions, so-called 'circular nonsense'?

If you believe what you say and claim is absolutely true, then why do you just not answer and clarify 'clarifying questions'?

You say that the necessity of cause and effect is creation and that creation is the necessity of cause and effect,

I do not and have never said, 'the necessity of cause and effect is creation', nor the rest of what you say and claim here.

but you take no account of the main claim of creation is it is novel.

I do not even know of any 'main claim' 'of creation is it is novel', let alone would I take any account for any such thing.

Please examine by above post where I take you statment line by line and annotate it in BLUE.

I did, and what I noticed is you are, still, are long way of understanding what I have actually said and meant here.

What you assuming and believe I am saying and meaning is a long way off, on a lot of occasions, and explains, partly, why your views are so far astray from what I have actually said and meant.

Your OP has said nothing about evolution and nothing about creation.
If you can't be bothered to deal with objections, I cannot be bothered to make any effort for you.

[Iwannaplato]

I don't have absolute beliefs, just like I didn't have any the last 273 times

Yet it absolutely believes the below is absolutely true.

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

And, as "iwannaplato" would call this one now, this one is an idiot for not believing what it claims is true.

I don't have absolute beliefs, just like I didn't have any the last 275 times. You have no idea about how IWP thinks either.

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

Sometimes it strikes me as sort of sad. He just keeps asserting that other people believe things to be absolutely true. Oddly he adds 'absolutely' in this accusation, while for him, merely having beliefs means they are absolute. But he adds this word. And just like you, earlier in our responses to each other, I would say to him that I didn't hold what I believed as absolutely true, and that they could change and had in the past when evidence came in via experience or otherwise. In the beginning he would accept this. But then when I asserted something else, he would then tell me that I believed it was absolutely true. And he would tell others, by referring to me as 'this one', that I was stupid or showing whatever negative trait he liked to assign at the time because of all my assumptions and beliefs that were I thought were absolutely true.

He makes assertions but we are NEVER to think they are beliefs. And when I think be believes something I don't assume he will never, ever change that belief. I just think, since he asserts things over and over that he believes them. I assume he believes things that he considers irrefutably true. Or proven again and again.

No, not him.

Others assert and this means they absolutely believe.
He asserts and and this doesn't he doesn't believe what he asserts at all, except that one belief he owns up to.

How could someone possibly hide this from himself? And if he not hiding it from himself, somehow that's even worse, because he thinks other people will fall for his denials.

I think the OP could be part of a decent argument and something to consider. But we are not to think even the parts he thinks are irrefutable and things he believes. It'd be funny if it wasn't sad.

[Atla]

Yet it absolutely believes the below is absolutely true.


And, as "iwannaplato" would call this one now, this one is an idiot for not believing what it claims is true.

I don't have absolute beliefs, just like I didn't have any the last 275 times. You have no idea about how IWP thinks either.

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

Sometimes it strikes me as sort of sad. He just keeps asserting that other people believe things to be absolutely true. Oddly he adds 'absolutely' in this accusation, while for him, merely having beliefs means they are absolute. But he adds this word. And just like you, earlier in our responses to each other, I would say to him that I didn't hold what I believed as absolutely true, and that they could change and had in the past when evidence came in via experience or otherwise. In the beginning he would accept this. But then when I asserted something else, he would then tell me that I believed it was absolutely true. And he would tell others, by referring to me as 'this one', that I was stupid or showing whatever negative trait he liked to assign at the time because of all my assumptions and beliefs that were I thought were absolutely true.

He makes assertions but we are NEVER to think they are beliefs. And when I think be believes something I don't assume he will never, ever change that belief. I just think, since he asserts things over and over that he believes them. I assume he believes things that he considers irrefutably true. Or proven again and again.

No, not him.

Others assert and this means they absolutely believe.
He asserts and and this doesn't he doesn't believe what he asserts at all, except that one belief he owns up to.

How could someone possibly hide this from himself? And if he not hiding it from himself, somehow that's even worse, because he thinks other people will fall for his denials.

I think the OP could be part of a decent argument and something to consider. But we are not to think even the parts he thinks are irrefutable and things he believes. It'd be funny if it wasn't sad.

Because Age literally thinks that she/he is God and God has no need for beliefs, God just knows the absolute truth. Age isn't hiding anything from itself because it doesn't think that it has a self.

I don't feel sad for such evil, I just feel sad that it exists. And I feel even more sad for those who have to provide for Age.

[Iwannaplato]

I don't feel sad for such evil, I just feel sad that it exists. And I feel even more sad for those who have to provide for Age.

Oddly I was just thinking about that issue when I wrote that last post.

[Iwannaplato]

Because Age literally thinks that she/he is God and God has no need for beliefs, God just knows the absolute truth.

That fits with some things I've read of his. It seemed like he was describing direct knowing. And thus also refusing to clarify because I or someone else was not ready - at his stage of Enlightenment. But you are pointing out a pattern in me, if indirectly. I do take people seriously and at face value in some ways. It's like how it actually bothers me that VA is betraying his FSK scheme. He just pisses on it when it suits him, then continues to defend it when anyone else has a problem with it. My naivte is showing.

Age isn't hiding anything from itself because it doesn't think that it has a self.

Well, he thinks he's not hiding anything, but he has a self and he is. Or the situation is much worse.

[Age]

Still nothing, the emperor is naked

You are incapable of proving your mind, mind-matter duality, evolution, time travel and infinite human potential beliefs, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

And, "atla" keeps believes that it is an absolute impossibility for me to prove any of these things here.

I don't have absolute beliefs, just like I didn't have any the last 273 times

And, thanks again for proving what I have been pointing out and showing here.