Quote of the day
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The Queen
Tony Blair: Funny, I'm actually rather nervous.
Cherie Blair: Why? You've met her often enough before.
Tony Blair: I know, but never one to one and never as Prime Minister.
Cherie Blair: Well, just remember, you're a man that's just been elected by the whole nation.
Tony Blair: But, she's still, you know: The Queen.
Next up: the King.
Alastair Campbell: They, er, sent a copy of the Queen's speech. Might want to scrape the frost off it first... Oh, I phoned them with a couple of suggestions, to make it sound like it came from a human being.
Tony Blair: Yeah, all right, Alastair.
Alastair Campbell: Well, at least the old bat's finally agreed to visit Diana's coffin.
Tony Blair: You know, when you get it wrong, you really get it wrong! That woman has given her whole life in service to her people. Fifty years doing a job SHE never wanted! A job she watched kill her father. She's executed it with honor, dignity, and, as far as I can tell, without a single blemish, and now we're all baying for her blood! All because she's struggling to lead the world in mourning for someone who... who threw everything she offered back in her face. And who, for the last few years, seemed committed 24/7 to destroying everything she holds most dear!
You tell me.
On the other hand...
Tony Blair: Will someone please save these people from themselves! Fine. I'll call Balmoral. Because as Prime Minister, I really got nothing better to do.
Tell that to Diana. Or was it too late?
Prince Philip: Have you seen the latest funeral guest list?
HM Queen Elizabeth II: No.
Prince Philip: I suggest you keep it that way. A chorus line of soap stars and homosexuals.
Fags, he means.
Prince Charles: Why is it? Why do they hate us so?
HM Queen Elizabeth II: Not *us,* dear.
Prince Charles: What?
HM Queen Elizabeth II: Hmm?
Well, that settles that.
Prince Philip: Sleeping in the streets and pulling out their hair for someone they never knew. And they think we're mad!
Imagine if, here, Taylor Swift died?
Tony Blair: Funny, I'm actually rather nervous.
Cherie Blair: Why? You've met her often enough before.
Tony Blair: I know, but never one to one and never as Prime Minister.
Cherie Blair: Well, just remember, you're a man that's just been elected by the whole nation.
Tony Blair: But, she's still, you know: The Queen.
Next up: the King.
Alastair Campbell: They, er, sent a copy of the Queen's speech. Might want to scrape the frost off it first... Oh, I phoned them with a couple of suggestions, to make it sound like it came from a human being.
Tony Blair: Yeah, all right, Alastair.
Alastair Campbell: Well, at least the old bat's finally agreed to visit Diana's coffin.
Tony Blair: You know, when you get it wrong, you really get it wrong! That woman has given her whole life in service to her people. Fifty years doing a job SHE never wanted! A job she watched kill her father. She's executed it with honor, dignity, and, as far as I can tell, without a single blemish, and now we're all baying for her blood! All because she's struggling to lead the world in mourning for someone who... who threw everything she offered back in her face. And who, for the last few years, seemed committed 24/7 to destroying everything she holds most dear!
You tell me.
On the other hand...
Tony Blair: Will someone please save these people from themselves! Fine. I'll call Balmoral. Because as Prime Minister, I really got nothing better to do.
Tell that to Diana. Or was it too late?
Prince Philip: Have you seen the latest funeral guest list?
HM Queen Elizabeth II: No.
Prince Philip: I suggest you keep it that way. A chorus line of soap stars and homosexuals.
Fags, he means.
Prince Charles: Why is it? Why do they hate us so?
HM Queen Elizabeth II: Not *us,* dear.
Prince Charles: What?
HM Queen Elizabeth II: Hmm?
Well, that settles that.
Prince Philip: Sleeping in the streets and pulling out their hair for someone they never knew. And they think we're mad!
Imagine if, here, Taylor Swift died?
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Despair...
“You may be appalled by your world, but you must be gratefully appalled.” Shawn Davis
Actually, you don't.
“For though despair is often close at hand, it never triumphs, and through all the story runs, a sustaining bond, the primal force which humanity shares with all earthly creatures, the sheer will to live.” George R. Stewart
Well, it's there until it's not.
"But I had two towels next to my toilet: one to wipe away the vomit, and one to wipe away the tears. I was dying, but I couldn’t tell anyone about it.” Matthew Perry
Then the rest of the story...
“The idea of a person's being a thing constantly aspiring to be and never achieving it---here, surely, is death but death spread out over a whole lifetime..” Simone Weil
Great. A whole lifetime of death.
“I have had choices since the day that I was born. There were voices that told me right from wrong. If I had listened, then I wouldn't be here today, living and dying with the choices I have made.” Billy Yates
That's how it works alright. On the other hand, one person's right choice is still another person's wrong choice.
“He says when you despair you're just admitting you fell for the happy horseshit in the first place.” James A. McLaughlin
Making it all the more humiliating.
“You may be appalled by your world, but you must be gratefully appalled.” Shawn Davis
Actually, you don't.
“For though despair is often close at hand, it never triumphs, and through all the story runs, a sustaining bond, the primal force which humanity shares with all earthly creatures, the sheer will to live.” George R. Stewart
Well, it's there until it's not.
"But I had two towels next to my toilet: one to wipe away the vomit, and one to wipe away the tears. I was dying, but I couldn’t tell anyone about it.” Matthew Perry
Then the rest of the story...
“The idea of a person's being a thing constantly aspiring to be and never achieving it---here, surely, is death but death spread out over a whole lifetime..” Simone Weil
Great. A whole lifetime of death.
“I have had choices since the day that I was born. There were voices that told me right from wrong. If I had listened, then I wouldn't be here today, living and dying with the choices I have made.” Billy Yates
That's how it works alright. On the other hand, one person's right choice is still another person's wrong choice.
“He says when you despair you're just admitting you fell for the happy horseshit in the first place.” James A. McLaughlin
Making it all the more humiliating.
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https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-con ... hard-watch
Shortly after insisting that his memory was "fine," Biden proceeded to refer to Egyptian President Abdel Fatah El-Sisi as the "president of Mexico."
"As you know, initially, the president of Mexico Sisi [sic] did not want to open up the gate to allow humanitarian material to get in [to Gaza]. I talked to him. I convinced him to open the gate," the president said.
thank god it wasn't a mean tweet
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Shortly after insisting that his memory was "fine," Biden proceeded to refer to Egyptian President Abdel Fatah El-Sisi as the "president of Mexico."
"As you know, initially, the president of Mexico Sisi [sic] did not want to open up the gate to allow humanitarian material to get in [to Gaza]. I talked to him. I convinced him to open the gate," the president said.
thank god it wasn't a mean tweet
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Suicide...
“I want to commit suicide but am afraid someone will think I am crazy.” Carl White
Then those convinced you'd be crazy not to.
“Anyone who dies by their own hand always has my sympathy. It's easy to sit in judgement on another's struggle from the outside without ever living in their suffocating darkness. If there is an explanation left behind, it usually confirms how relentlessly harsh and unfair they were on themselves. Mourn their release with mercy and gratitude for doing what they were capable of in their short lives.” Stewart Stafford
Starting now, okay?
“It is not the case that one can create new people on the assumption that if they are not pleased to have come into existence they can simply kill themselves. Once somebody has come into existence and attachments with that person have been formed, suicide can cause the kind of pain that makes the pain of childlessness mild by comparison. Somebody contemplating suicide knows (or should know) this. This places an important obstacle in the way of suicide. One’s life may be bad, but one must consider what affect ending it would have on one’s family and friends. There will be times when life has become so bad that it is unreasonable for the interests of the loved ones in having the person alive to outweigh that person’s interests in ceasing to exist. When this is true will depend in part on particular features of the person for whom continued life is a burden. Different people are able to bear different magnitudes of burden. It may even be indecent for family members to expect that person to continue living. On other occasions one’s life may be bad but not so bad as to warrant killing oneself and thereby making the lives of one’s family and friends still much worse than they already are.” David Benatar
Uh, blah, blah, blah?
“My quality of life does not justify the effort required to cope with it” Dmitry Dyatlov
Sometimes it can be that simple.
“Because she—you hear her—she's calling, and is always going to call, and it's better both of us die by the dagger without anyone seeing us, Orestes, and die a fit death.” Gabriela Mistral
A fit death? Right.
“Why is the world like this? How is the world like this? How is it that humans have created a society that allows a child to come to the conclusion that they would be better off dead than alive because they like the same sex?” Aaron H. Aceves
Rhethorical questions let's call them.
“I want to commit suicide but am afraid someone will think I am crazy.” Carl White
Then those convinced you'd be crazy not to.
“Anyone who dies by their own hand always has my sympathy. It's easy to sit in judgement on another's struggle from the outside without ever living in their suffocating darkness. If there is an explanation left behind, it usually confirms how relentlessly harsh and unfair they were on themselves. Mourn their release with mercy and gratitude for doing what they were capable of in their short lives.” Stewart Stafford
Starting now, okay?
“It is not the case that one can create new people on the assumption that if they are not pleased to have come into existence they can simply kill themselves. Once somebody has come into existence and attachments with that person have been formed, suicide can cause the kind of pain that makes the pain of childlessness mild by comparison. Somebody contemplating suicide knows (or should know) this. This places an important obstacle in the way of suicide. One’s life may be bad, but one must consider what affect ending it would have on one’s family and friends. There will be times when life has become so bad that it is unreasonable for the interests of the loved ones in having the person alive to outweigh that person’s interests in ceasing to exist. When this is true will depend in part on particular features of the person for whom continued life is a burden. Different people are able to bear different magnitudes of burden. It may even be indecent for family members to expect that person to continue living. On other occasions one’s life may be bad but not so bad as to warrant killing oneself and thereby making the lives of one’s family and friends still much worse than they already are.” David Benatar
Uh, blah, blah, blah?
“My quality of life does not justify the effort required to cope with it” Dmitry Dyatlov
Sometimes it can be that simple.
“Because she—you hear her—she's calling, and is always going to call, and it's better both of us die by the dagger without anyone seeing us, Orestes, and die a fit death.” Gabriela Mistral
A fit death? Right.
“Why is the world like this? How is the world like this? How is it that humans have created a society that allows a child to come to the conclusion that they would be better off dead than alive because they like the same sex?” Aaron H. Aceves
Rhethorical questions let's call them.
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Re: Quote of the day
Grizzly Man
Marc Gaede - Ecologist: [reading a hate letter] "A bear diet consists of liberals and Dems and wacko environmentalists that think the spotted owl is the most important thing in the world. We need to somehow drastically increase the number of bears in America, especially in such key spots as the Berkley campus."
That'll do it, I suppose.
Timothy Treadwell: Nobody friggin' knew that there are times when my life has been on the precipice of death!
True story. Obviously.
Timothy Treadwell: [said after a long summer drought] I am the Lord's humble servant. I am Allah's disciple. I am the Floaty Thing's go-for boy. There has been a miracle here. There has been an absolute miracle. It has rained 1.65 inches of rain today!
So, there is a God...
Timothy Treadwell: I would never, ever kill a bear in defense of my own life...
What wouldn't you kill?
Timothy Treadwell: Expedition 2001 coming to an end for Grizzly People. For me, Timothy Treadwell. I came here and protected these animals as best I could. In fact, I'm the *only* protection for these animals. The government flying over a grand total of two times in two months. How dare they? How dare they challenge me? How dare they smear me with their campaigns? How dare they? When they do not look after these animals, and I come here in peace and love. Neutral and respect. I will continue to do this. I will fight them. I will be an American dissident if I need be. There's a patriotic time going on in right now but as far as this fucking government is concerned, fuck you, motherfucking Park Service!
Werner Herzog: [narrating over Treadwell's rant] Now, Treadwell crosses a line with the Park Service, which we will not cross. He attacks the individuals with whom he worked for thirteen years.
Timothy Treadwell: I beat your fucking asses. I protected the animals. I did it. Fuck you! Animals rule. Timothy conquered. Fuck you, Park Service! Okay?
Werner Herzog: It is clear to me that the Park Service is not Treadwell's real enemy. There's a larger, more implacable adversary out there. The people's world and civilization.
Timothy Treadwell: [imitating some unknown person] Yeah, Timothy I'm getting a bad feeling about you.
Werner Herzog: He only has mockery and contempt for it.
Timothy Treadwell: [still imitating] Well, I saw you on David Letterman. You're
[mock giggle]
Timothy Treadwell: fairly entertaining.
Werner Herzog: His rage is almost incandescent. Artistic. The actor in his film has taken over from the filmmaker. I have seen this madness before on a film set. But Treadwell is not an actor in opposition to a director or a producer. He's fighting civilization itself. It is the same civilization that cast Thoreau out of Walden and sent John Muir into the wild.
And let's not forget Reese Witherspoon.
Werner Herzog: This is Timothy's camera, during the fatal attack there was no time to remove the lens cap. Jewel Palovak allowed me to listen to the audio.
[he is telling Jewel what he is hearing]
Werner Herzog: It rained into here, "Amie get away get away go away."
[silence while Werner is listening to it and shaking]
Werner Herzog: Can you turn it off?
[more silence occurs and Jewel is starting to cry]
Werner Herzog: True you must never listen to this.
Jewel Palovak: I know Werner, I'm never going to.
Werner Herzog: And you must never look at the photo that I've seen in the car in this office.
Jewel Palovak: I will never look at them.
Werner Herzog: Yeah.
[more silence]
Jewel Palovak: They said it was bad...Now you know why no one's going to hear it.
I've certainly never heard it myself.
Marc Gaede - Ecologist: [reading a hate letter] "A bear diet consists of liberals and Dems and wacko environmentalists that think the spotted owl is the most important thing in the world. We need to somehow drastically increase the number of bears in America, especially in such key spots as the Berkley campus."
That'll do it, I suppose.
Timothy Treadwell: Nobody friggin' knew that there are times when my life has been on the precipice of death!
True story. Obviously.
Timothy Treadwell: [said after a long summer drought] I am the Lord's humble servant. I am Allah's disciple. I am the Floaty Thing's go-for boy. There has been a miracle here. There has been an absolute miracle. It has rained 1.65 inches of rain today!
So, there is a God...
Timothy Treadwell: I would never, ever kill a bear in defense of my own life...
What wouldn't you kill?
Timothy Treadwell: Expedition 2001 coming to an end for Grizzly People. For me, Timothy Treadwell. I came here and protected these animals as best I could. In fact, I'm the *only* protection for these animals. The government flying over a grand total of two times in two months. How dare they? How dare they challenge me? How dare they smear me with their campaigns? How dare they? When they do not look after these animals, and I come here in peace and love. Neutral and respect. I will continue to do this. I will fight them. I will be an American dissident if I need be. There's a patriotic time going on in right now but as far as this fucking government is concerned, fuck you, motherfucking Park Service!
Werner Herzog: [narrating over Treadwell's rant] Now, Treadwell crosses a line with the Park Service, which we will not cross. He attacks the individuals with whom he worked for thirteen years.
Timothy Treadwell: I beat your fucking asses. I protected the animals. I did it. Fuck you! Animals rule. Timothy conquered. Fuck you, Park Service! Okay?
Werner Herzog: It is clear to me that the Park Service is not Treadwell's real enemy. There's a larger, more implacable adversary out there. The people's world and civilization.
Timothy Treadwell: [imitating some unknown person] Yeah, Timothy I'm getting a bad feeling about you.
Werner Herzog: He only has mockery and contempt for it.
Timothy Treadwell: [still imitating] Well, I saw you on David Letterman. You're
[mock giggle]
Timothy Treadwell: fairly entertaining.
Werner Herzog: His rage is almost incandescent. Artistic. The actor in his film has taken over from the filmmaker. I have seen this madness before on a film set. But Treadwell is not an actor in opposition to a director or a producer. He's fighting civilization itself. It is the same civilization that cast Thoreau out of Walden and sent John Muir into the wild.
And let's not forget Reese Witherspoon.
Werner Herzog: This is Timothy's camera, during the fatal attack there was no time to remove the lens cap. Jewel Palovak allowed me to listen to the audio.
[he is telling Jewel what he is hearing]
Werner Herzog: It rained into here, "Amie get away get away go away."
[silence while Werner is listening to it and shaking]
Werner Herzog: Can you turn it off?
[more silence occurs and Jewel is starting to cry]
Werner Herzog: True you must never listen to this.
Jewel Palovak: I know Werner, I'm never going to.
Werner Herzog: And you must never look at the photo that I've seen in the car in this office.
Jewel Palovak: I will never look at them.
Werner Herzog: Yeah.
[more silence]
Jewel Palovak: They said it was bad...Now you know why no one's going to hear it.
I've certainly never heard it myself.
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Re: Quote of the day
Slavoj Žižek
Cinema is the ultimate pervert art. It doesn't give you what you desire - it tells you how to desire.
For instance?
We feel free because we lack the very language to articulate our unfreedom.
That's basically my point.
I think.
If you have reasons to love someone, you don’t love them.
You can still fuck them though, right?
When we are shown scenes of starving children in Africa, with a call for us to do something to help them, the underlying ideological message is something like: "Don't think, don't politicize, forget about the true causes of their poverty, just act, contribute money, so that you will not have to think!”
Like buying something at Walmart manufactured in a sweatshop. That Marxist stuff.
Words are never 'only words'; they matter because they define the contours of what we can do.
See, I told you.
Humanity is OK, but 99% of people are boring idiots.
Any boring idiots here? Well, come down out of the intellectual clouds and let me cure you.
Cinema is the ultimate pervert art. It doesn't give you what you desire - it tells you how to desire.
For instance?
We feel free because we lack the very language to articulate our unfreedom.
That's basically my point.
I think.
If you have reasons to love someone, you don’t love them.
You can still fuck them though, right?
When we are shown scenes of starving children in Africa, with a call for us to do something to help them, the underlying ideological message is something like: "Don't think, don't politicize, forget about the true causes of their poverty, just act, contribute money, so that you will not have to think!”
Like buying something at Walmart manufactured in a sweatshop. That Marxist stuff.
Words are never 'only words'; they matter because they define the contours of what we can do.
See, I told you.
Humanity is OK, but 99% of people are boring idiots.
Any boring idiots here? Well, come down out of the intellectual clouds and let me cure you.
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Nihilism...
“If a problem is irreversible, is there still an ethical obligation to try to reverse it?” Chuck Klosterman
Sure, what the hell, why not?
“The nihilist looks around at everything and comes to terms with what seems to be obvious. The sun is one tiny dying star in an enormous universe. One day the sun will burn out or explode, destroying us all. The earth is a molten rock that could either be blown up by nuclear weapons or an erratic comet. We are one of the seven billion nameless faceless ones currently living on this rock. What does our existence matter to this rock floating around a dying star within the expanse of an enormous universe?
Not much." Jon Morrison
Whine, whine, whine.
“Implicit in the very idea of ordered liberty, was a rejection of absolute truth, the infallibility of any idea or ideology or theology or 'ism,' any tyrannical consistency that might lock future generations into a single, unalterable course, or drive both majorities and minorities into the cruelties of the Inquisition, the pogrom, the gulag, or the jihad.
A rejection of absolutism, in all its forms, may sometimes slip into moral relativism or even nihilism, an erosion of values that hold society together…” Barack Obama
Barry? "Change the ruling class can believe in."
But, no doubt about it, point taken.
“Nihilism, cynicism, sarcasm, and orgasm.” Doris Block
And, as with most things, practice makes perfect.
“On the one hand our body is our temple, but on the other we despise it for being mere machinery. We've become accustomed to valuing mind over body. We feel nothing but contempt for the factors relating to our physical survival.” Frank Schätzing
Unless, of course, it's beyond our control.
“I believe what I believe and you believe what you believe and we'll agree to disagree. It's liberal tolerance meets dark ages denialism. It's very hip right now.” Nathan Hill
Remember that, Joe.
“If a problem is irreversible, is there still an ethical obligation to try to reverse it?” Chuck Klosterman
Sure, what the hell, why not?
“The nihilist looks around at everything and comes to terms with what seems to be obvious. The sun is one tiny dying star in an enormous universe. One day the sun will burn out or explode, destroying us all. The earth is a molten rock that could either be blown up by nuclear weapons or an erratic comet. We are one of the seven billion nameless faceless ones currently living on this rock. What does our existence matter to this rock floating around a dying star within the expanse of an enormous universe?
Not much." Jon Morrison
Whine, whine, whine.
“Implicit in the very idea of ordered liberty, was a rejection of absolute truth, the infallibility of any idea or ideology or theology or 'ism,' any tyrannical consistency that might lock future generations into a single, unalterable course, or drive both majorities and minorities into the cruelties of the Inquisition, the pogrom, the gulag, or the jihad.
A rejection of absolutism, in all its forms, may sometimes slip into moral relativism or even nihilism, an erosion of values that hold society together…” Barack Obama
Barry? "Change the ruling class can believe in."
But, no doubt about it, point taken.
“Nihilism, cynicism, sarcasm, and orgasm.” Doris Block
And, as with most things, practice makes perfect.
“On the one hand our body is our temple, but on the other we despise it for being mere machinery. We've become accustomed to valuing mind over body. We feel nothing but contempt for the factors relating to our physical survival.” Frank Schätzing
Unless, of course, it's beyond our control.
“I believe what I believe and you believe what you believe and we'll agree to disagree. It's liberal tolerance meets dark ages denialism. It's very hip right now.” Nathan Hill
Remember that, Joe.
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God...
“All this twaddle, the existence of God, atheism, determinism, liberation, societies, death, etc., are pieces of a chess game called language, and they are amusing only if one does not preoccupy oneself with 'winning or losing this game of chess.” Marcel Duchamp
The Fool!
“For every thing that lives is Holy.” William Blake
Yes, even mosquitoes and maggots.
“Be a man! What good is religion if it collapses under calamity? Think of what earthquakes and floods, wars and volcanoes, have done before to men! Did you think that God had exempted us? He is not an insurance agent.” H.G. Wells
Okay, but the kids?
“We read the Golden Rule and judge it to be a brilliant distillation of many of our ethical impulses. And then we come across another of God’s teachings on morality: if a man discovers on his wedding night that his bride is not a virgin, he must stone her to death on her father’s doorstep (Deuteronomy 22:13-21).” Sam Harris
Of course, God's just another inherent manifestation of the only possible reality, right Sam?
“Theological formation is the gradual and often painful discovery of God's incomprehensibility. You can be competent in many things, but you cannot be competent in God.” Henri Nouwen
One more thing you just "somehow" believe.
“Christianity may be good and Satanism evil. Under the Constitution, however, both are neutral. This is an important, but difficult, concept for many law enforcement officers to accept. They are paid to uphold the penal code, not the Ten Commandments … The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don’t like that statement, but few can argue with it.” Carl Sagan
Sic him, IC!
“All this twaddle, the existence of God, atheism, determinism, liberation, societies, death, etc., are pieces of a chess game called language, and they are amusing only if one does not preoccupy oneself with 'winning or losing this game of chess.” Marcel Duchamp
The Fool!
“For every thing that lives is Holy.” William Blake
Yes, even mosquitoes and maggots.
“Be a man! What good is religion if it collapses under calamity? Think of what earthquakes and floods, wars and volcanoes, have done before to men! Did you think that God had exempted us? He is not an insurance agent.” H.G. Wells
Okay, but the kids?
“We read the Golden Rule and judge it to be a brilliant distillation of many of our ethical impulses. And then we come across another of God’s teachings on morality: if a man discovers on his wedding night that his bride is not a virgin, he must stone her to death on her father’s doorstep (Deuteronomy 22:13-21).” Sam Harris
Of course, God's just another inherent manifestation of the only possible reality, right Sam?
“Theological formation is the gradual and often painful discovery of God's incomprehensibility. You can be competent in many things, but you cannot be competent in God.” Henri Nouwen
One more thing you just "somehow" believe.
“Christianity may be good and Satanism evil. Under the Constitution, however, both are neutral. This is an important, but difficult, concept for many law enforcement officers to accept. They are paid to uphold the penal code, not the Ten Commandments … The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don’t like that statement, but few can argue with it.” Carl Sagan
Sic him, IC!
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City of God
Buscapé: It was like a message from God: "Honesty doesn't pay, sucker."
God might work differently in your city.
Buscapé: You need more than guts to be a good gangster. You need ideas.
Tell that to the Runts.
Sandro Cenoura: Have you lost your mind? You are just a kid!
Filé-com-Fritas [steak-with-fries]: A kid? I smoke, I snort. I've killed and robbed. I'm a man.
Go ahead, challenge him on that.
[after seeing his pictures printed in the front page of the news by mistake]
Buscapé: Fuck... I'm dead!
[cut to slum]
Zé Pequeno: What's the name of that friend of yours who took this picture?
Thiago - Tiago: Buscapé.
[Enjoying the pictures]
Zé Pequeno: Buscapé! The guy is good!
Dead? He's the fucking man of the hour!
Zé Pequeno: Where do you want to take the shot? In the hand or in the foot?
Then this part: https://youtu.be/V26Pogm8ktk?si=GyGLzCg8aLzvc_JZ
Buscapé: What should have been swift revenge turned into an all out war. The City of God was divided. You couldn't go from one section the other, not even to visit a relative. The cops considered anyone living in the slum a hoodlum. People got used to living in Vietnam, and more and more volunteers signed up to die.
On the other hand: https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=9 ... =620&dpr=1
Buscapé: It was like a message from God: "Honesty doesn't pay, sucker."
God might work differently in your city.
Buscapé: You need more than guts to be a good gangster. You need ideas.
Tell that to the Runts.
Sandro Cenoura: Have you lost your mind? You are just a kid!
Filé-com-Fritas [steak-with-fries]: A kid? I smoke, I snort. I've killed and robbed. I'm a man.
Go ahead, challenge him on that.
[after seeing his pictures printed in the front page of the news by mistake]
Buscapé: Fuck... I'm dead!
[cut to slum]
Zé Pequeno: What's the name of that friend of yours who took this picture?
Thiago - Tiago: Buscapé.
[Enjoying the pictures]
Zé Pequeno: Buscapé! The guy is good!
Dead? He's the fucking man of the hour!
Zé Pequeno: Where do you want to take the shot? In the hand or in the foot?
Then this part: https://youtu.be/V26Pogm8ktk?si=GyGLzCg8aLzvc_JZ
Buscapé: What should have been swift revenge turned into an all out war. The City of God was divided. You couldn't go from one section the other, not even to visit a relative. The cops considered anyone living in the slum a hoodlum. People got used to living in Vietnam, and more and more volunteers signed up to die.
On the other hand: https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=9 ... =620&dpr=1
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Re: Quote of the day
Katherine Dunn from Geek Love
The truth is always an insult or a joke, lies are generally tastier. We love them. The nature of lies is to please. Truth has no concern for anyone's comfort.
Can't Trump this, can you?
They thought to use and shame me but I win out by nature, because a true freak cannot be made. A true freak must be born.
So, it's beyond the freak's control?
I get glimpses of the horror of normalcy. Each of these innocents on the street is engulfed by a terror of their own ordinariness. They would do anything to be unique.
What would you do?
You must have wished a million times to be normal.
No.
No?
I’ve wished I had two heads. Or that I was invisible. I’ve wished for a fish’s tail instead of legs. I’ve wished to be more special.
Not normal?
Never.
Normal...the new abnormal.
There are parts of Texas where a fly lives ten thousand years and a man can't die soon enough.
Next up: undocumented flies.
The more people we exclude, the more people will want to join. That’s what exclusive means.
Think Final Clubs, right Mark?
The truth is always an insult or a joke, lies are generally tastier. We love them. The nature of lies is to please. Truth has no concern for anyone's comfort.
Can't Trump this, can you?
They thought to use and shame me but I win out by nature, because a true freak cannot be made. A true freak must be born.
So, it's beyond the freak's control?
I get glimpses of the horror of normalcy. Each of these innocents on the street is engulfed by a terror of their own ordinariness. They would do anything to be unique.
What would you do?
You must have wished a million times to be normal.
No.
No?
I’ve wished I had two heads. Or that I was invisible. I’ve wished for a fish’s tail instead of legs. I’ve wished to be more special.
Not normal?
Never.
Normal...the new abnormal.
There are parts of Texas where a fly lives ten thousand years and a man can't die soon enough.
Next up: undocumented flies.
The more people we exclude, the more people will want to join. That’s what exclusive means.
Think Final Clubs, right Mark?
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Inception
Cobb: Dreams feel real while we're in them. It's only when we wake up that we realize something was actually strange.
Let's just say stranger for some here than for others.
Saito: Have you come to kill me? I've been waiting for someone...
Cobb: Someone from a half remembered dream.
Saito: Cobb? Impossible. We were young men together. I'm an old man.
Cobb: Filled with regret...
Saito: Waiting to die alone...
Cobb: I've come back for you... to remind you of something. Something you once knew...
[the top spins without end]
Cobb: That this world is not real.
Saito: To convince me to honor our arrangement.
Cobb: To take a leap of faith, yes. Come back... so we can be young men together again. Come back with me...
[Saito reaches for the gun]
Cobb: Come back...
As with The Matrix, we're never quite sure what to make of a reality that goes all the way back to...what exactly?
Cobb: I'm going to improvise. Listen, there's something you should know about me...about inception. An idea is like a virus, resilient, highly contagious. The smallest seed of an idea can grow. It can grow to define or destroy you.
Maybe fracture and fragment you?
Cobb: What do you want?
Saito: Inception. Is it possible?
Arthur: Of course not.
Saito: If you can steal an idea, why can't you plant one there instead?
Arthur: Okay, this is me, planting an idea in your mind. I say: don't think about elephants. What are you thinking about?
Saito: Elephants?
Arthur: Right, but it's not your idea. The dreamer can always remember the genesis of the idea. True inspiration is impossible to fake.
Cobb: No, it's not.
So, will it be or not?
Maurice Fischer: [Robert opens the vault to see Maurice on his death bed struggling to say something] Disa... disap... disappointed
Fischer: I know, Dad. I know you were disappointed I couldn't be you.
Maurice Fischer: No. No, no. I was disappointed... that you tried.
[Robert opens the safe to find the new Last Will and Testament along with the pinwheel from when he was a kid. The inception has worked]
Is that a good thing?
Mal: I'll tell you a riddle. You're waiting for a train, a train that will take you far away. You know where you hope this train will take you, but you don't know for sure. But it doesn't matter. How can it not matter to you where that train will take you?
Knock, knock?
Cobb: Dreams feel real while we're in them. It's only when we wake up that we realize something was actually strange.
Let's just say stranger for some here than for others.
Saito: Have you come to kill me? I've been waiting for someone...
Cobb: Someone from a half remembered dream.
Saito: Cobb? Impossible. We were young men together. I'm an old man.
Cobb: Filled with regret...
Saito: Waiting to die alone...
Cobb: I've come back for you... to remind you of something. Something you once knew...
[the top spins without end]
Cobb: That this world is not real.
Saito: To convince me to honor our arrangement.
Cobb: To take a leap of faith, yes. Come back... so we can be young men together again. Come back with me...
[Saito reaches for the gun]
Cobb: Come back...
As with The Matrix, we're never quite sure what to make of a reality that goes all the way back to...what exactly?
Cobb: I'm going to improvise. Listen, there's something you should know about me...about inception. An idea is like a virus, resilient, highly contagious. The smallest seed of an idea can grow. It can grow to define or destroy you.
Maybe fracture and fragment you?
Cobb: What do you want?
Saito: Inception. Is it possible?
Arthur: Of course not.
Saito: If you can steal an idea, why can't you plant one there instead?
Arthur: Okay, this is me, planting an idea in your mind. I say: don't think about elephants. What are you thinking about?
Saito: Elephants?
Arthur: Right, but it's not your idea. The dreamer can always remember the genesis of the idea. True inspiration is impossible to fake.
Cobb: No, it's not.
So, will it be or not?
Maurice Fischer: [Robert opens the vault to see Maurice on his death bed struggling to say something] Disa... disap... disappointed
Fischer: I know, Dad. I know you were disappointed I couldn't be you.
Maurice Fischer: No. No, no. I was disappointed... that you tried.
[Robert opens the safe to find the new Last Will and Testament along with the pinwheel from when he was a kid. The inception has worked]
Is that a good thing?
Mal: I'll tell you a riddle. You're waiting for a train, a train that will take you far away. You know where you hope this train will take you, but you don't know for sure. But it doesn't matter. How can it not matter to you where that train will take you?
Knock, knock?
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Re: Quote of the day
Dorothy Allison from Bastard Out of Carolina
Things come apart so easily when they have been held together with lies.
Or the wrong truths?
Everything that comes to us is a blessing or a test. That’s all you need to know in this life…just the certainty that God’s got His eye on you, that He knows what you are made of, what you need to grow on. Why, questioning’s a sin, it’s pointless. He will show you your path in His own good time. And long as I remember that, I’m fine.
Including bastards?
“People pay for that they do, and still more, for what they have allowed themselves to become. And they pay for it simply: by the lives they lead. - James Baldwin”
Does it get any grimmer than that?
It ain't that you get religion. Religion gets you and then milks you dry. Won't let you drink a little whiskey. Won't let you make no fat-assed girls grin and giggle. Won't let you do a damn thing except work for what you'll get in the hearafter. I live in the here and now.
Fine, but God ain't fooled.
People don't do right because of the fear of God or love of him. You do the right thing because the world doesn't make sense if you don't.
On the other hand, not much that can't be.
That was what gospel was meant to do - make you hate and love yourself at the same time, make you ashamed and glorified.
How's that working out? So far.
Things come apart so easily when they have been held together with lies.
Or the wrong truths?
Everything that comes to us is a blessing or a test. That’s all you need to know in this life…just the certainty that God’s got His eye on you, that He knows what you are made of, what you need to grow on. Why, questioning’s a sin, it’s pointless. He will show you your path in His own good time. And long as I remember that, I’m fine.
Including bastards?
“People pay for that they do, and still more, for what they have allowed themselves to become. And they pay for it simply: by the lives they lead. - James Baldwin”
Does it get any grimmer than that?
It ain't that you get religion. Religion gets you and then milks you dry. Won't let you drink a little whiskey. Won't let you make no fat-assed girls grin and giggle. Won't let you do a damn thing except work for what you'll get in the hearafter. I live in the here and now.
Fine, but God ain't fooled.
People don't do right because of the fear of God or love of him. You do the right thing because the world doesn't make sense if you don't.
On the other hand, not much that can't be.
That was what gospel was meant to do - make you hate and love yourself at the same time, make you ashamed and glorified.
How's that working out? So far.
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Albert Camus from The Fall
Of course, true love is exceptional - two or three times a century, more or less. The rest of the time there is vanity or boredom.
Next up: true hate.
And let's start here.
Today we are always as ready to judge as we are to fornicate.
And then some.
Thus I progressed on the surface of life, in the realm of words as it were, never in reality.
Let's not go there, you say?
Believe me, for certain men at least, not taking what one doesn't desire is the hardest thing in the world.
You tell me.
The truth is that every intelligent man, as you know, dreams of being a gangster and of ruling over society by force alone. As it is not so easy as the detective novels might lead one to believe, one generally relies on politics and joins the cruelest party. What does it matter, after all, if by humiliating one's mind one succeeds in dominating every one? I discovered in myself sweet dreams of oppression.
You tell me.
We're going forward, but nothing changes.
But only if we're really lucky, of course.
Of course, true love is exceptional - two or three times a century, more or less. The rest of the time there is vanity or boredom.
Next up: true hate.
And let's start here.
Today we are always as ready to judge as we are to fornicate.
And then some.
Thus I progressed on the surface of life, in the realm of words as it were, never in reality.
Let's not go there, you say?
Believe me, for certain men at least, not taking what one doesn't desire is the hardest thing in the world.
You tell me.
The truth is that every intelligent man, as you know, dreams of being a gangster and of ruling over society by force alone. As it is not so easy as the detective novels might lead one to believe, one generally relies on politics and joins the cruelest party. What does it matter, after all, if by humiliating one's mind one succeeds in dominating every one? I discovered in myself sweet dreams of oppression.
You tell me.
We're going forward, but nothing changes.
But only if we're really lucky, of course.
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Re: Quote of the day
High Plains Drifter
Sarah Belding: Be careful. You're a man who makes people afraid, and that's dangerous.
The Stranger: It's what people know about themselves inside that makes 'em afraid.
All the rest is Judgment Day, right?
The Stranger: Your feet ma'am are almost as big as your mouth.
Figuratively, as it were.
[last scene: the stranger is on his way out of town. He stops at the cemetary, where Mordecai is chiseling a gravestone]
Mordecai: I'm just about done here.
[pause]
Mordecai: I never did know your name...
The Stranger: Yes, you do.
[Mordecai stares at the stranger, confused]
The Stranger: Take care.
Mordecai: [salutes] Yes, sir, captain!
[the Stranger rides away. The camera pans back to reveal the writing on the gravestone: "MARSHAL JIM DUNCAN - REST IN PEACE"]
Ah, the spooky, supernatural part.
The Stranger: You know you're going to look awfully silly with that knife sticking up your ass.
Lesson learned?
Bill Borders: Maybe you think you're fast enough to keep up with us, huh?
The Stranger: A lot faster than you'll ever live to be.
Scripted, anyway.
The Stranger: Wonder what took her so long to get mad?
Mordecai: Because maybe you didn't go back for more?
Or, instead, did he flat-out rape her?
Sarah Belding: Be careful. You're a man who makes people afraid, and that's dangerous.
The Stranger: It's what people know about themselves inside that makes 'em afraid.
All the rest is Judgment Day, right?
The Stranger: Your feet ma'am are almost as big as your mouth.
Figuratively, as it were.
[last scene: the stranger is on his way out of town. He stops at the cemetary, where Mordecai is chiseling a gravestone]
Mordecai: I'm just about done here.
[pause]
Mordecai: I never did know your name...
The Stranger: Yes, you do.
[Mordecai stares at the stranger, confused]
The Stranger: Take care.
Mordecai: [salutes] Yes, sir, captain!
[the Stranger rides away. The camera pans back to reveal the writing on the gravestone: "MARSHAL JIM DUNCAN - REST IN PEACE"]
Ah, the spooky, supernatural part.
The Stranger: You know you're going to look awfully silly with that knife sticking up your ass.
Lesson learned?
Bill Borders: Maybe you think you're fast enough to keep up with us, huh?
The Stranger: A lot faster than you'll ever live to be.
Scripted, anyway.
The Stranger: Wonder what took her so long to get mad?
Mordecai: Because maybe you didn't go back for more?
Or, instead, did he flat-out rape her?
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Contagion
Dr. Ally Hextall: We've sequenced the virus, determined its origin and we've modeled the way it enters the cells of the lung and the brain. The virus contains both bat and pig sequences. The dark green is pig, and the light green is bat. And here you can see the crossover event. Bat, bat, and pig, bat. And here is a model of the virus and how it attaches to its host. The blue is virus, and the gold is human, and the red is the viral attachment protein and the green is its receptor in the human cells. These receptors are found in the cells of both the respiratory tract and the central nervous system. And the virus attaches to the cell like a key slipping into a lock. Somewhere in the world, the wrong pig met up with the wrong bat.
What on Earth was God thinking?
Dave: My wife makes me take off my clothes in the garage. Then she leaves out a bucket of warm water and some soap. And then she douses everything in hand sanitizer after I leave. I mean, she's overreacting, right?
Dr. Erin Mears: Not really. And stop touching your face, Dave.
As for the bathhouses...
Dr. Ian Sussman: Get away from here.
Alan Krumwiede: Where'd it come from? Military?
Dr. Ian Sussman: You're not a doctor and you're not a writer.
Alan Krumwiede: Yes, I am a writer. Yes, I am.
Dr. Ian Sussman: Blogging is not writing. It's graffiti with punctuation.
Alan Krumwiede: I am a journalist and there's informed discussion on the blogosphere that this is a biological weapon.
Maybe the next one.
Dr. Ellis Cheever: We're working very hard to find out where this virus came from. To treat it and to vaccinate against it if we can. We don't know all of that yet, we just don't know. What we do know, is that in order to become sick you have to first come in contact with a sick person or something that they touched. In order to get scared, all you have to do is to come in contact with a rumor, or the television or the internet. I think what Mr. Krumwiede is uh... is spreading, is far more dangerous than the disease.
Still no vaccine for HIV. And aren't they the lucky ones, right?
Dr. Ellis Cheever: Someone doesn't have to weaponize the bird flu. The birds are doing that.
Is that the next Big One? Only this time for real?
Dr. Erin Mears: The average person touches their face two or three thousand times a day.
Minnesota Health #4: Two or three thousand times a day?
Dr. Erin Mears: Three to five times every waking minute. In between, we're touching doorknobs, water fountains, elevator buttons, and each other. Those things become fomites.
No fomites here, right?
Dr. Ally Hextall: We've sequenced the virus, determined its origin and we've modeled the way it enters the cells of the lung and the brain. The virus contains both bat and pig sequences. The dark green is pig, and the light green is bat. And here you can see the crossover event. Bat, bat, and pig, bat. And here is a model of the virus and how it attaches to its host. The blue is virus, and the gold is human, and the red is the viral attachment protein and the green is its receptor in the human cells. These receptors are found in the cells of both the respiratory tract and the central nervous system. And the virus attaches to the cell like a key slipping into a lock. Somewhere in the world, the wrong pig met up with the wrong bat.
What on Earth was God thinking?
Dave: My wife makes me take off my clothes in the garage. Then she leaves out a bucket of warm water and some soap. And then she douses everything in hand sanitizer after I leave. I mean, she's overreacting, right?
Dr. Erin Mears: Not really. And stop touching your face, Dave.
As for the bathhouses...
Dr. Ian Sussman: Get away from here.
Alan Krumwiede: Where'd it come from? Military?
Dr. Ian Sussman: You're not a doctor and you're not a writer.
Alan Krumwiede: Yes, I am a writer. Yes, I am.
Dr. Ian Sussman: Blogging is not writing. It's graffiti with punctuation.
Alan Krumwiede: I am a journalist and there's informed discussion on the blogosphere that this is a biological weapon.
Maybe the next one.
Dr. Ellis Cheever: We're working very hard to find out where this virus came from. To treat it and to vaccinate against it if we can. We don't know all of that yet, we just don't know. What we do know, is that in order to become sick you have to first come in contact with a sick person or something that they touched. In order to get scared, all you have to do is to come in contact with a rumor, or the television or the internet. I think what Mr. Krumwiede is uh... is spreading, is far more dangerous than the disease.
Still no vaccine for HIV. And aren't they the lucky ones, right?
Dr. Ellis Cheever: Someone doesn't have to weaponize the bird flu. The birds are doing that.
Is that the next Big One? Only this time for real?
Dr. Erin Mears: The average person touches their face two or three thousand times a day.
Minnesota Health #4: Two or three thousand times a day?
Dr. Erin Mears: Three to five times every waking minute. In between, we're touching doorknobs, water fountains, elevator buttons, and each other. Those things become fomites.
No fomites here, right?