The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:08 pmNo. Trump isn't Hitler, not even figuratively, let alone "literally". He is an opportunitic narcissist with a prescription drug abuse problem I suppose, so that would be a small similarity.

He was legitimately elected for one term in office, albeit by virtue of a weird system that should probably be reformed, nonetheless by the law of the land he was the legit pres for 4 years. Then he legitimately lost his re-election campaign. I obviously wouldn't have voted for him either time were I an American voter, but that's niether here nor there.

The voters who did cast their votes all have a right to equal representation and that right would be removed from them if you decide to not count their votes because its midnight and you want to stop the election at some arbitrary time prior to counting all the votes.
So let's keep elections going until 200% of votes are counted for...by your logic.
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Sculptor wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:08 pm Trump is an agent of a foreign power.
He is the twice electoral winner for President of the United States.
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Sculptor wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:10 pmHe was invited to provide a defence, but this was a slam dunk.
He held deomcracy in contempt by definition and has been found guilty.

Are you really that stupid?
I'm smart enough to know how evil it is for a Western "Democracy" to unjustly, unfairly convict, sentence, and imprison the lead Political rival.
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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:19 pm
Sculptor wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:08 pm Trump is an agent of a foreign power.
He is the twice electoral winner for President of the United States.

He is the agent of a foreign power
I now that exactly the same way that you "know" he is president.
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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:20 pm
Sculptor wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:10 pmHe was invited to provide a defence, but this was a slam dunk.
He held deomcracy in contempt by definition and has been found guilty.

Are you really that stupid?
I'm smart enough to know how evil it is for a Western "Democracy" to unjustly, unfairly convict, sentence, and imprison the lead Political rival.
And I am smart enough to know a complete moron, QANON addicted twat face when I see one..

Just to annoy you....

The earth is NOT flat.
Men did land on the Moon
There is no Pizzagate.
And aliens did not kill Kennedy
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Sculptor wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:26 pmAnd I am smart enough to know a complete moron, QANON addicted twat face when I see one..

Just to annoy you....

The earth is NOT flat.
Men did land on the Moon
There is no Pizzagate.
And aliens did not kill Kennedy
Reality is President Trump of the United States of America,

Highest office of the land, and of Western Civilization, why do you deny reality, Scuplty?

Trump is far more American than CNN, MSDNC, and Hilary Clinton ever was or will be...why listen to election LOSERS?
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When are you going to recognize that nothing you say will convince your opposition of anything? Time to move on.
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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:18 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:08 pmNo. Trump isn't Hitler, not even figuratively, let alone "literally". He is an opportunitic narcissist with a prescription drug abuse problem I suppose, so that would be a small similarity.

He was legitimately elected for one term in office, albeit by virtue of a weird system that should probably be reformed, nonetheless by the law of the land he was the legit pres for 4 years. Then he legitimately lost his re-election campaign. I obviously wouldn't have voted for him either time were I an American voter, but that's niether here nor there.

The voters who did cast their votes all have a right to equal representation and that right would be removed from them if you decide to not count their votes because its midnight and you want to stop the election at some arbitrary time prior to counting all the votes.
So let's keep elections going until 200% of votes are counted for...by your logic.
Clearly not. I am satisfied with one vote per voter who votes. You should want that too.
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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:44 pm
Sculptor wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:26 pmAnd I am smart enough to know a complete moron, QANON addicted twat face when I see one..

Just to annoy you....

The earth is NOT flat.
Men did land on the Moon
There is no Pizzagate.
And aliens did not kill Kennedy
Reality is President Trump of the United States of America,

Highest office of the land, and of Western Civilization, why do you deny reality, Scuplty?
THere is ZERO evidence of election fraud excpet that commited by the Trump/Guiliani Crime Organisation.
Their claim has been tested the length and breth of the land, and the Guiliani/Trump crime ring offered NO evidence to several courts. Courts that have been appointed by Trump BTW.
On the other hand evidence that the Guiliani/Trump crime organisation forged documents, tried to bribe electors, and threaten elections volunteers has been placed in a very large indictment document, which has been examined by a grand jury without prejudice and they have found that there is a case to answer.
Trump will have his day in court and shell have all the opporuntiy of a very large sum of cash and all the lawyers he can buy to put his case.
But I think you will find that the Trump/Guilian Crime Organisation have no defence.
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commonsense wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 1:02 pm When are you going to recognize that nothing you say will convince your opposition of anything? Time to move on.

Evidence is all you can offer to convince.
Trump has none and never did have.
All he has is empty words.
The words of a legandary liar.
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Sculptor wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 1:50 pm
commonsense wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 1:02 pm When are you going to recognize that nothing you say will convince your opposition of anything? Time to move on.

Evidence is all you can offer to convince.
Trump has none and never did have.
All he has is empty words.
The words of a legandary liar.
Right, of course, but all of the evidence against Trump, or lack of it for Trump, has no effect on zealous Trumpers. I don’t know why this is, but it seems to be a rock solid fact.

And in fairness, whatever a Trumper puts forward has no effect in convincing non-Trumpers of anything either.
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commonsense wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 1:02 pm When are you going to recognize that nothing you say will convince your opposition of anything? Time to move on.
When reason fails you can always switch gears to mockery. Of course, this pushes people even further into their entrenchment, but this is politically useful.

Extremists becoming even more extreme (like toddlers who don't get their feelings validated) eventually piss people off past their breaking point and we can then throw said extremists under the political bus without any outrage from the majority.

Extremists are useful idiots.
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Skepdick wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 2:31 pm
commonsense wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 1:02 pm When are you going to recognize that nothing you say will convince your opposition of anything? Time to move on.
When reason fails you can always switch gears to mockery. Of course, this pushes people even further into their entrenchment, but this is politically useful.

Extremists becoming even more extreme (like toddlers who don't get their feelings validated) eventually piss people off past their breaking point and we can then throw said extremists under the political bus without any outrage from the majority.

Extremists are useful idiots.
I see your point. I just eventually get too tired of it to bother with it.

Do you think that the whizz is catching on?
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commonsense wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 2:58 pm
Skepdick wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 2:31 pm
commonsense wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 1:02 pm When are you going to recognize that nothing you say will convince your opposition of anything? Time to move on.
When reason fails you can always switch gears to mockery. Of course, this pushes people even further into their entrenchment, but this is politically useful.

Extremists becoming even more extreme (like toddlers who don't get their feelings validated) eventually piss people off past their breaking point and we can then throw said extremists under the political bus without any outrage from the majority.

Extremists are useful idiots.
I see your point. I just eventually get too tired of it to bother with it.

Do you think that the whizz is catching on?
Even if he is, he'd never admit it.

His game is to shock you with ignorance.
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commonsense wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 1:02 pm When are you going to recognize that nothing you say will convince your opposition of anything? Time to move on.
Trump is an old man who hasn't eaten a vegetable since 1986 and he does all that sniffling during debates and such because he snorts Adderal to get his game face on. What do you think the conspiracy nutters are going to do when he goes out like Elvis on the toilet? They are going to shout something about a deep state and start shooting their boom sticks. So we may as well see if we can talk any of them down before that
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