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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:36 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:17 pm
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:13 pm
You have been following the exchange, right? So why would I need to include that portion? Others, if they read at all closely, will do the same.

Was something lost as a result? Explain.
You recommended admitting to my limited vision, I did, that's what you got.

Now you can tell us your actual beliefs about holocaust denial or white replacement theory, or you can make self serving excuses for never doing so, but it's pointless to complain after making tht weak choice that it was unfair for others to draw conclusions based on your evasions.
Here you *come in for the kill*. You set this up from the beginning. I explained this clearly. You have illustrated precisely what I have been saying.

In my view there is something diseased in the way your mind works.
You make it sound like I expended effort to entrap you, but why would I bother? You are, if not a nazi, then something nazi adjacent enough that there is no particular need to discriminate. You make unimpressive excuses for not clarifying your position for obvious reasons, and you aren't subtle, so you will expose yourself given any opportunity whatsoever. Cunning entrapments would just be a hat on a hat really.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:50 pm
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:36 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:17 pm
You recommended admitting to my limited vision, I did, that's what you got.

Now you can tell us your actual beliefs about holocaust denial or white replacement theory, or you can make self serving excuses for never doing so, but it's pointless to complain after making tht weak choice that it was unfair for others to draw conclusions based on your evasions.
Here you *come in for the kill*. You set this up from the beginning. I explained this clearly. You have illustrated precisely what I have been saying.

In my view there is something diseased in the way your mind works.
You make it sound like I expended effort to entrap you, but why would I bother? You are, if not a nazi, then something nazi adjacent enough that there is no particular need to discriminate. You make unimpressive excuses for not clarifying your position for obvious reasons, and you aren't subtle, so you will expose yourself given any opportunity whatsoever. Cunning entrapments would just be a hat on a hat really.
I THINK BOTH OF YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET ALONG WITH EACH OTHER, IT'S INCREDIBLY ANNOYING TO WITNESS THE TWO OF YOU FIGHTING. IF YOU WANT TO FIGHT THEN KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:52 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:50 pm
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:36 pm
Here you *come in for the kill*. You set this up from the beginning. I explained this clearly. You have illustrated precisely what I have been saying.

In my view there is something diseased in the way your mind works.
You make it sound like I expended effort to entrap you, but why would I bother? You are, if not a nazi, then something nazi adjacent enough that there is no particular need to discriminate. You make unimpressive excuses for not clarifying your position for obvious reasons, and you aren't subtle, so you will expose yourself given any opportunity whatsoever. Cunning entrapments would just be a hat on a hat really.
I THINK BOTH OF YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET ALONG WITH EACH OTHER, IT'S INCREDIBLY ANNOYING TO WITNESS THE TWO OF YOU FIGHTING. IF YOU WANT TO FIGHT THEN KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
Fuck off.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:55 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:52 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:50 pm
You make it sound like I expended effort to entrap you, but why would I bother? You are, if not a nazi, then something nazi adjacent enough that there is no particular need to discriminate. You make unimpressive excuses for not clarifying your position for obvious reasons, and you aren't subtle, so you will expose yourself given any opportunity whatsoever. Cunning entrapments would just be a hat on a hat really.
I THINK BOTH OF YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET ALONG WITH EACH OTHER, IT'S INCREDIBLY ANNOYING TO WITNESS THE TWO OF YOU FIGHTING. IF YOU WANT TO FIGHT THEN KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
Fuck off.
You're choice, not mine. Keep fighting then, see where that gets you. If that's your attitude then am I supposed to come to the rescue if one of you abominates the other?
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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:57 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:55 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:52 pm

I THINK BOTH OF YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET ALONG WITH EACH OTHER, IT'S INCREDIBLY ANNOYING TO WITNESS THE TWO OF YOU FIGHTING. IF YOU WANT TO FIGHT THEN KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
Fuck off.
You're choice, not mine. Keep fighting then, see where that gets you. If that's your attitude then am I supposed to come to the rescue if one of you abominates the other?
What? Neither AJ nor me is going to come to you for succour in the event of hurt feely feels. That's the one possible thing for us to agree on.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:00 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:57 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:55 pm

Fuck off.
You're choice, not mine. Keep fighting then, see where that gets you. If that's your attitude then am I supposed to come to the rescue if one of you abominates the other?
What? Neither AJ nor me is going to come to you for succour in the event of hurt feely feels. That's the one possible thing for us to agree on.
I don't care about my feelings I care about the fact that neither of you two can get alone, and if you can't then, you two will just have to deal with it. It doesn't hurt my feelings to see the two of you tear each other's philosophies or mental notions to shreds. I will of course wonder what good has come from it, but who knows, maybe you're doing the right thing for all I know. I'm trying to help AJ get to a better place, he seems to be fixated on some very bad things. That's not a good thing for ANY OF US including AJ himself. We need to do whatever we can to help him to a better place. You keep doing what you are doing if that's what you think is best, I'll try to do what I can do. I can only do so much, though.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:50 pm You make it sound like I expended effort to entrap you, but why would I bother? You are, if not a nazi, then something nazi adjacent enough that there is no particular need to discriminate. You make unimpressive excuses for not clarifying your position for obvious reasons, and you aren't subtle, so you will expose yourself given any opportunity whatsoever. Cunning entrapments would just be a hat on a hat really.
Expended an effort? I would not put it like this.

You can do nothing else but start from pre-determined positions on a whole range of controversial topics. You focused on one (the Shoah) because I said (once) that "there are some disputes about details but in general the conventional history is correct" (I am paraphrasing myself from another thread). You latched on to this because you believe that there is some dark, hidden element that you believe it your moral duty to expose. And I let you go on in that. I did not stop you.

When the "You are a Nazi!" accusation is used (or 'racist' or' misogynist or any number of such terms), the purpose of which is to put the one you are accusing on the defensive. If you do not know how this game works then I must conclude that you are not too bright. Yet your prose does not indicate a stupid man (taken generally). It is certainly a form of a trap, and thus certainly is entrapping.

Here, you explain it quite succinctly:
but why would I bother? You are, if not a nazi, then something nazi adjacent
and
enough that there is no particular need to discriminate
Nothing said, or not said will change your a priori view.

And here you demonstrate what you really are up to and why:
You make unimpressive excuses for not clarifying your position for obvious reasons, and you aren't subtle, so you will expose yourself given any opportunity whatsoever.
This is your starting point.

What is the purpose of demonstrating all this? To illustrate the sort of bad thinking that goes on here, in our cultures, and among people who really should know better and who should show themselves capable of much better performance.

Half of the people writing on this forum are deformed, distorting, diseased thinkers. And you are one of them -- in my opinion.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:12 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:50 pm You make it sound like I expended effort to entrap you, but why would I bother? You are, if not a nazi, then something nazi adjacent enough that there is no particular need to discriminate. You make unimpressive excuses for not clarifying your position for obvious reasons, and you aren't subtle, so you will expose yourself given any opportunity whatsoever. Cunning entrapments would just be a hat on a hat really.
Expended an effort? I would not put it like this.

You can do nothing else but start from pre-determined positions on a whole range of controversial topics. You focused on one (the Shoah) because I said (once) that "there are some disputes about details but in general the conventional history is correct" (I am paraphrasing myself from another thread). You latched on to this because you believe that there is some dark, hidden element that you believe it your moral duty to expose. And I let you go on in that. I did not stop you.

When the "You are a Nazi!" accusation is used (or 'racist' or' misogynist or any number of such terms), the purpose of which is to put the one you are accusing on the defensive. If you do not know how this game works then I must conclude that you are not too bright. Yet your prose does not indicate a stupid man (taken generally). It is certainly a form of a trap, and thus certainly is entrapping.

Here, you explain it quite succinctly:
but why would I bother? You are, if not a nazi, then something nazi adjacent
and
enough that there is no particular need to discriminate
Nothing said, or not said will change your a priori view.

And here you demonstrate what you really are up to and why:
You make unimpressive excuses for not clarifying your position for obvious reasons, and you aren't subtle, so you will expose yourself given any opportunity whatsoever.
What is the purpose of demonstrating all this? To illustrate the sort of bad thinking that goes on -- here, in our cultures, and among people who really should know better and show themselves capable of much more.
All I ask, AJ is to try to get along with Flash. I "let you in" so to speak. If you behave like an ogre, then I have to live with whatever you do and you have not shared with me what it is you want to do or why. Flash is a human being as well. We all are, including everyone who is currently reading this. We can only hope there will be a human being to read this in the future. Or at least someone from Earth.
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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:05 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:00 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:57 pm

You're choice, not mine. Keep fighting then, see where that gets you. If that's your attitude then am I supposed to come to the rescue if one of you abominates the other?
What? Neither AJ nor me is going to come to you for succour in the event of hurt feely feels. That's the one possible thing for us to agree on.
I don't care about my feelings I care about the fact that neither of you two can get alone, and if you can't then, you two will just have to deal with it. It doesn't hurt my feelings to see the two of you tear each other's philosophies or mental notions to shreds. I will of course wonder what good has come from it, but who knows, maybe you're doing the right thing for all I know. I'm trying to help AJ get to a better place, he seems to be fixated on some very bad things. That's not a good thing for ANY OF US including AJ himself. We need to do whatever we can to help him to a better place. You keep doing what you are doing if that's what you think is best, I'll try to do what I can do. I can only do so much, though.
Jacobi doesn't care what I think, I am one of those dirty globalists in bed with the Jews and admixing their DNA with impure foreign sorts. He doesn't mind that I call him names, it's free advertising for him. I was never the target anyway.

What he wants is get up in your DMs (or Henry's, or anyone with socially conservative tendencies for him to leverage) and have a conversation that starts with how much better it is to communicate in private without nasty lefties like that FDP bastard calling you both names.

If you think you could talk him round to a more healthy worldview, you are delusional. You are not the hunter, you are the lunch.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:00 pm What? Neither AJ nor me is going to come to you for succour in the event of hurt feely feels. That's the one possible thing for us to agree on.
Sieg heil to that brother!
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:18 pm Jacobi doesn't care what I think, I am one of those dirty globalists in bed with the Jews and admixing their DNA with impure foreign sorts. He doesn't mind that I call him names, it's free advertising for him. I was never the target anyway.
Here, Mr Flash reveals what really is going on in him.

It is his own content then projected outward. And this is a common action or activity. It has a strange psychological element that I describe as *deranged*. How is projection cured? By seeing it. That is the first step.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:18 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:05 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:00 pm
What? Neither AJ nor me is going to come to you for succour in the event of hurt feely feels. That's the one possible thing for us to agree on.
I don't care about my feelings I care about the fact that neither of you two can get alone, and if you can't then, you two will just have to deal with it. It doesn't hurt my feelings to see the two of you tear each other's philosophies or mental notions to shreds. I will of course wonder what good has come from it, but who knows, maybe you're doing the right thing for all I know. I'm trying to help AJ get to a better place, he seems to be fixated on some very bad things. That's not a good thing for ANY OF US including AJ himself. We need to do whatever we can to help him to a better place. You keep doing what you are doing if that's what you think is best, I'll try to do what I can do. I can only do so much, though.
Jacobi doesn't care what I think, I am one of those dirty globalists in bed with the Jews and admixing their DNA with impure foreign sorts. He doesn't mind that I call him names, it's free advertising for him. I was never the target anyway.

What he wants is get up in your DMs (or Henry's, or anyone with socially conservative tendencies for him to leverage) and have a conversation that starts with how much better it is to communicate in private without nasty lefties like that FDP bastard calling you both names.

If you think you could talk him round to a more healthy worldview, you are delusional. You are not the hunter, you are the lunch.
I can't speak for what AJ is or isn't or what he believes or doesn't and I can't speak for what he will do, however, are you sure that AJ believes what you say he does? If so, then we need to help him think differently. I don't know how to do that alone, but if I have to do it alone, then I will do what I am able.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:21 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:18 pm Jacobi doesn't care what I think, I am one of those dirty globalists in bed with the Jews and admixing their DNA with impure foreign sorts. He doesn't mind that I call him names, it's free advertising for him. I was never the target anyway.
Here, Mr Flash reveals what really is going on in him.

It is his own content then projected outward. And this is a common action or activity. It has a strange psychological element that I describe as *deranged*. How is projection cured? By seeing it. That is the first step.
If that is in Flash, then what is in you? Most of what I have read so far has to do with Mosquitoes, clips from the Godfather, texts concerning war making people heroes and other stuff, that doesn't seem very much like "sane" thinking to me. If you can't handle me whacking the pud, then I'm not sure what else to do. You seem to get upset by things that aren't really hurting you. Or is my pulling the goalie somehow hurting you? If so, then I will stop referring to it.
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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:25 pm If you can't handle me whacking the pud, then I'm not sure what else to do.
No better place for jackin' it that San Diego
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGvzA5SmvKc
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:29 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:25 pm If you can't handle me whacking the pud, then I'm not sure what else to do.
No better place for jackin' it that San Diego
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGvzA5SmvKc
Fair enough.

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