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Belinda
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Re: Philosophy

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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 11:59 am
Sculptor wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 11:45 amIt does you no harm.
https://news.yahoo.com/judge-rules-loud ... 13442.html
National Review
Judge Rules Loudoun County Teen Sexually Assaulted Female Student in Girls’ Bathroom
Caroline Downey
October 26, 2021·2 min read

Ruling on a the case that has seized national attention and reinvigorated debate over parental rights in public education, a Virginia juvenile court judge concluded Monday that a transgender teenager sexually assaulted a female student in a Loudoun County high school in May.

Chief Judge Pamela L. Brooks found there was sufficient evidence to determine the individual guilty of sexual assault.

The decision comes after the Daily Wire spoke to the victim’s father, who said the male student forcibly sodomized his ninth-grade daughter in a school bathroom while wearing a skirt. When the father attempted to describe and protest the incident at a local school-board meeting, he was arrested for disorderly conduct, allowing the sexual abuse to stay underground for months.

After the assault, the perpetrator was transferred to another school where he allegedly assaulted a second female student in early October.

In the interim, the Loudoun County School Board passed a sweeping gender-inclusivity policy allowing students to use restrooms and locker rooms, as well as compete in sports, according to their gender identity rather than biological sex.
The particularly heinous part,

"After the assault, the perpetrator was transferred to another school where he allegedly a

Butssaulted a second female student in early October.
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The assault was cruel and criminal whatever the sex of the assaulter. The criminal should be isolated from society not because of the sexual orientation but because of the cruel assaults.

It's stupid to elevate sexuality, bathrooms, and what people wear to the same status as deliberate cruelty.
Wizard22
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Re: Philosophy

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Innocence, as you're using the term, Age, is largely a myth. A young child will readily steal from a sibling or classmate and lie about it. Punishing and correcting that behavior is integral in child development. Some parents parent well, but many do not. Some parents are alcoholic, trashy, abused as children, and thus inflict severe beatings for small infractions. You need to distinguish abuse from 'regular' discipline. I don't know if you're able to do so.

Children are the property of their biological parents, by the way.
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Re: Philosophy

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Belinda wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:08 pmThe assault was cruel and criminal whatever the sex of the assaulter. The criminal should be isolated from society not because of the sexual orientation but because of the cruel assaults.

It's stupid to elevate sexuality, bathrooms, and what people wear to the same status as deliberate cruelty.
Using a dress to hide sexual aggression is not something I'm willing to tolerate, sorry.

I won't stand with such "liberal" values.
Age
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Re: Philosophy

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promethean75 wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 3:40 am "you' say this like 'you' are Truly FREE "wizard22". Is this what 'you' BELIEVE is true?"

Age. buddy. he wouldn't have said it unless he thought it wuz true. it goes without saying. you don't have to aks him if what he says he believes is what he believes, unless he is under suspicion of lying. but in that case, it would be futile to aks a liar if what he says next is true... hence the uselessness of aksing him and the futility of the endeavor.
So are you saying here that "wizard22" BELIEVES EVERY one else is NOT free and ARE SLAVES, but "wizard22" BELIEVES that 'itself' is the only one that is FREE?
Belinda
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Re: Philosophy

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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:03 pm
Belinda wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 11:59 amThe Ayatollahs are not traditionalists they are a dictatorial and literalist elite. Some traditions of Islam need to be modernised so the words of the Holy Prophet are embedded in history. The Koran on the treatment of women was an improvement on what had preceded it in Arabia .

Postmodernity is a dead end. There is no substantial "battle for tradition". It's the institutions of modernity, preferably Enlightenment modernity, that will overcome the evils of people not knowing who they are or what they want their purpose to be.
I don't know where you live. But here in the United States, the battle rages daily over Enlightenment values, particularly those repealing free speech, censoring others, de-personing, de-platforming, de-banking, etc. This battle over free speech is coming. It is global, as you demonstrated in Iran and with Persian women. China has the Great Firewall, on their own internet, blocking outside influence into their tradition, culture, and people.

Do you allow your children to watch pornography? No?? Then you agree with me.
Enlightenment values endorse rights of individuals. Pornography is not a good genre as it intended to be sensational only. Moreover, pornography is usually very commercial. Children are easily influenced (as we agree) and need to be protected from bad ideas. Pornography may be useful for imparting anatomical facts but, for the reason I give ,these facts are better learned from impartial and age appropriate sources.
Age
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Re: Philosophy

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'you', "wizard22", start a thread with words like this:

I pose to you all three "simple" questions:

1. What is the Meaning of Life?

2. Does God Exist (and How)?

3. What is the Nature of Reality?



But end up writing words like this:
Wizard22 wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 11:53 am
It does harm me and others.

I would not want my prepubescent or teenage daughter sharing a bathroom with these degenerates.

Eventually I cannot share a society with them, and them not with me. I'd prefer to have it my way over yours.
Could this be ANY MORE 'trolling'?

Oh, and by the way, the way 'you' LOOK AT and SEE 'things' here "wizard22" there is NO wonder about WHY societies were in such A MESS, as they WERE back in the days when this was being written.

One can even SEE a THREAT, from 'you', of MURDERING and KILLING 'those' that 'you' OBVIOUSLY absolutely HATE and DO NOT want ALIVE and living around 'you'.
Wizard22
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Re: Philosophy

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Age wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:11 pmSo are you saying here that "wizard22" BELIEVES EVERY one else is NOT free and ARE SLAVES, but "wizard22" BELIEVES that 'itself' is the only one that is FREE?
You're using the strawman fallacy frequently now. You should quote me, before making accusations.

All you're doing now is helping my argument as to the necessity of discipline. Take a look at your own grammar, highly undisciplined. It speaks of something much deeper.
Wizard22
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Re: Philosophy

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Age wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:19 pmOne can even SEE a THREAT, from 'you', of MURDERING and KILLING 'those' that 'you' OBVIOUSLY absolutely HATE and DO NOT want ALIVE and living around 'you'.
So you're implying that if a rapist assaulted your daughter, that you would not defend her?

Interesting...
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Re: Philosophy

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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:10 pm
Belinda wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:08 pmThe assault was cruel and criminal whatever the sex of the assaulter. The criminal should be isolated from society not because of the sexual orientation but because of the cruel assaults.

It's stupid to elevate sexuality, bathrooms, and what people wear to the same status as deliberate cruelty.
Using a dress to hide sexual aggression is not something I'm willing to tolerate, sorry.

I won't stand with such "liberal" values.
That story of the rape was not a story of "sexual aggression" that was a story of personal cruelty. Hiding behind a dress is comparatively slight compared with raping a little girl.
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Re: Philosophy

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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:03 pm
Belinda wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 11:59 amThe Ayatollahs are not traditionalists they are a dictatorial and literalist elite. Some traditions of Islam need to be modernised so the words of the Holy Prophet are embedded in history. The Koran on the treatment of women was an improvement on what had preceded it in Arabia .

Postmodernity is a dead end. There is no substantial "battle for tradition". It's the institutions of modernity, preferably Enlightenment modernity, that will overcome the evils of people not knowing who they are or what they want their purpose to be.
I don't know where you live. But here in the United States, the battle rages daily over Enlightenment values, particularly those repealing free speech, censoring others, de-personing, de-platforming, de-banking, etc. This battle over free speech is coming. It is global, as you demonstrated in Iran and with Persian women. China has the Great Firewall, on their own internet, blocking outside influence into their tradition, culture, and people.

Do you allow your children to watch pornography? No?? Then you agree with me.
Do 'you', "wizard22", BELIEVE children, and even infants, ARE MENACES, and NEED to be PUNISHED, by 'you', otherwise they will grow up doing wrong? Yes?? Then 'you' agree that most if NOT ALL of 'us' see 'you' as one of the MOST DEGENERATE adult individuals around.

But, it is a common thread in religious teachings to CLAIM ALL children are born BAD or WRONG, and that they WILL ALL grow up doing wrong if they are NOT PUNISHED and/or NOT MADE TO FEEL Wrong and BAD for just doing, what WAS, essentially, FOUND TO BE just COPYING the Wrong and BAD behaviors that ALL of 'you', adult human beings, are ACTUALLY DOING.
Wizard22
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Re: Philosophy

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Belinda wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:24 pmThat story of the rape was not a story of "sexual aggression" that was a story of personal cruelty. Hiding behind a dress is comparatively slight compared with raping a little girl.
Whether you call it sexual aggression, or personal cruelty, doesn't change the fact that I won't tolerate, and certainly not from perverts who hide behind women's clothes. It's interesting to me how evil hides and drapes itself, blending into the fabric of society, though. It's about forcing people to lower their guard...let predators and pedophiles into personal and private spaces, like a kindergarten classroom.

I suppose that you approve of cartoon books being shown to young children of two gay dads, and two gay moms, as well? What message is that showing to children, that homosexuality is just as normal or "equal" to heterosexual parents? And that it's no different in Quality?

What's the difference between procreative and recreative sex, after all?

Is there a difference?

Having a child is no big deal? Abortion is no big deal? People certainly seem to think they are. I believe children are the biggest responsibility of life. What goes into their heads, is also part of that biggest responsibility. How much smut do you allow or forgive? I'm not so lenient to letting children or teenagers watch pornography. Liberals may approve, but I do not. Does that make me a Persian Ayatollah?
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Re: Philosophy

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Age wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:29 pmDo 'you', "wizard22", BELIEVE children, and even infants, ARE MENACES, and NEED to be PUNISHED, by 'you', otherwise they will grow up doing wrong? Yes?? Then 'you' agree that most if NOT ALL of 'us' see 'you' as one of the MOST DEGENERATE adult individuals around.

But, it is a common thread in religious teachings to CLAIM ALL children are born BAD or WRONG, and that they WILL ALL grow up doing wrong if they are NOT PUNISHED and/or NOT MADE TO FEEL Wrong and BAD for just doing, what WAS, essentially, FOUND TO BE just COPYING the Wrong and BAD behaviors that ALL of 'you', adult human beings, are ACTUALLY DOING.
Children should be taught to tell the truth, not lie, share, and not steal. It's quite simple. You either plant the seeds for an orderly and peaceful society, or a chaotic and destructive one. The answer is as simple as Discipline. Do you discipline bad behavior, reward good behavior, or not? If you do not, if you lack discipline, then chaos and destruction it will be. Is this your prerogative?
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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:08 pm Innocence, as you're using the term, Age, is largely a myth. A young child will readily steal from a sibling or classmate and lie about it.
A PRIME example of one who was SEVERELY ABUSED and has NOT YET GROWN UP and MATURED.

Wizard22 wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:08 pm Punishing and correcting that behavior is integral in child development.
MORE evidence and ACTUAL PROOF of just HOW MUCH this one was ABUSED, and has NOT YET RECOVERED FROM.
Wizard22 wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:08 pm Some parents parent well, but many do not.
And, would I be WRONG in that from your VERY OWN PERSPECTIVE 'you' BELIEVE that 'you' are one of the parents/adults on the so-called 'parent well' "side", correct?
Wizard22 wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:08 pm Some parents are alcoholic, trashy, abused as children, and thus inflict severe beatings for small infractions. You need to distinguish abuse from 'regular' discipline. I don't know if you're able to do so.
And here we have an OBVIOUS example and ABSOLUTE PROOF of one who has NOT WORKED OUT what ABUSE IS, YET. As well as continually 'TRIES TO' "justify" 'its' OWN ABUSE of "others" and of the VERY YOUNG. Which is Truly SAD to WITNESS and OBSERVE.
Wizard22 wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:08 pm Children are the property of their biological parents, by the way.
This WAS the teaching of the 'religious', and THE ABUSED, who BELIEVED that they HAD the RIGHT to PUNISH ("their") children, "the way they saw fit". After all to those parents ALL children young and old are just MENACES and NEED to be PUNISHED otherwise they WOULD grow up DOING WRONG.
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Re: Philosophy

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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:10 pm
Belinda wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:08 pmThe assault was cruel and criminal whatever the sex of the assaulter. The criminal should be isolated from society not because of the sexual orientation but because of the cruel assaults.

It's stupid to elevate sexuality, bathrooms, and what people wear to the same status as deliberate cruelty.
Using a dress to hide sexual aggression is not something I'm willing to tolerate, sorry.

I won't stand with such "liberal" values.
All 'you' are doing here "walker22" is just SHOWING and REVEALING 'your' UTTER HATRED for SOME and just EXPRESSING what 'you' BELIEVE is true. you' have NOT 'argued' ANY thing, and ARE just REVEALING the True DEGENERATE that 'you' REALLY ARE.

"belinda" has spoken MORE SENSE in just a couple of sentences than 'you' have throughout most of this thread.
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Re: Philosophy

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Firstly, my username is not "walker". So your strawman fallacies and inability to address me, are important.

Secondly, do I "hate" a rapist? Yes, and there's nothing wrong with doing so. The better question is, why would you defend one?
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