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The Coronavirus and Time for Self Reflection

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Reason requires a process of self reflection where a previously subjective state is magnified into an objective one. This objectivity is pattern formation. The subjective state, that of personal experience, is repeated through force of habit resulting in the identity of the observer through the manifestation of a series of actions.

For example in reflecting upon a series of actions, such as an exercise routine, this routine is repeated in the intellect until it manifests itself as the exercise routine itself. Reflection is the giving of structure to the intellect where some fleeting thought repeats itself until it becomes part of the identity of the observer.

Reflection is analytical as well, as the breaking down of experience into a new one. For example a bad habit, such as smoking, is a series of experiences which are imprinted upon the intellect. This pattern is broken down, into its root causes such as smoking induced anxiety, into a new pattern where the old pattern is negated, that of not smoking.

The act of reflection is thus a formation of patterns through a repitition of thought and the inversion of one set of thoughts into another. Reflection is thus two fold. It converges repeated thoughts into a series of actions; dually it diverges repeated thoughts into a series of actions. Reflection thus is the manifestation of a series of actions that exist as extensions of thought as the ingraining of thought. The ingraining of thought is the self assuming of patterns.

The I exists through a series of repeated loops.

The first loop is that where the self is directed away from itself through an exterior experience which imprints itself on the I. An example of this would be the watching of an exercise program and having this program, as knowledge, imprint itself on the psyche.

The second loop is that where the self, as imprinted, is directed in towards itself in manner where the exterior imprints are broken down into further imprints which are then reformed into a new sense of self. An example of this would be the reflection of the imprinted expercise programs and the incorporation of it into the psyche as in inherent part of the psyche. In reflecting upon the imprint of the program comes an self imprinting of it through repitition.

The third loop is the alternation between the exterior and interior imprints. An example of this would be the imprinting of the program on the psyche, the breaking down of the pattern into a new series of patterns which are repeated in the psyche, further exterior imprinting followed by further interior imprinting.

Reflection thus takes the nature of a trifold cycle which manifests an identity of the self through a series of patterns.

This root of reflection is founded in solitude and silence, where the patterns which form the identity express themselves without distraction. This distraction is the division of awareness. Division of awareness is the division of the sense of I. Division of the sense of I is the direction of the I away from itself towards an exterior experience alone, or the direction of the I only towards itself through self absorption. It is the act of reflection of the I which forms a series of loops as repeated actions and thought which determine the identity of the I.

With the advent of the coronavirus comes a period of undistracted self reflection within the individual as a means of further transformation. The self, as undivided by lack of distraction, is able to reflect with a single pointed awareness towards its goal.
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The 'coronavirus craziness' thread was removed for some unfathomable reason--perhaps the dreaded 'c' word has beeen censored as 'offensive to China' (as it has elsewhere). Fucked up world indeed.
As for China, the numbers they are giving out to the rest of the world are hilarious. They seriously believe that in a country of nearly one and a half BILLION they only had ONE death yesterday, while the US had 2259?
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:36 pm The 'coronavirus craziness' thread was removed for some unfathomable reason--perhaps the dreaded 'c' word has beeen censored as 'offensive to China' (as it has elsewhere). Fucked up world indeed.
As for China, the numbers they are giving out to the rest of the world are hilarious. They seriously believe that in a country of nearly one and a half BILLION they only had ONE death yesterday, while the US had 2259?
You're right, it's gone, right down the memory hole.

Nice job, Big British Brother.

I'll keep my eye open for the soon-to-be-posted obligatory Newspeak lexicon.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:36 pm The 'coronavirus craziness' thread was removed for some unfathomable reason--perhaps the dreaded 'c' word has beeen censored as 'offensive to China' (as it has elsewhere). Fucked up world indeed.
As for China, the numbers they are giving out to the rest of the world are hilarious. They seriously believe that in a country of nearly one and a half BILLION they only had ONE death yesterday, while the US had 2259?
It was the numbers, wasn’t it, that caused the thread to be removed. I knew Henry was up to something with all those JH reports. :wink:
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Just had another look and the US' figures for the last 24 hours is now 30,178 new cases and 2479 new deaths, while China's is ..drumroll... 0 and 0 respectively.
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commonsense wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:11 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:36 pm The 'coronavirus craziness' thread was removed for some unfathomable reason--perhaps the dreaded 'c' word has beeen censored as 'offensive to China' (as it has elsewhere). Fucked up world indeed.
As for China, the numbers they are giving out to the rest of the world are hilarious. They seriously believe that in a country of nearly one and a half BILLION they only had ONE death yesterday, while the US had 2259?
It was the numbers, wasn’t it, that caused the thread to be removed. I knew Henry was up to something with all those JH reports. :wink:
All I was up to: showing how global numbers of infection and death are minor compared to, for example, the flu which kills a helluva lot more people every year than the virus, and kills a helluva lot more without nations puttin' the kibosh on economies or restricting citizen movements.

Simply: there's a whole whack of death on Earth and Coronavirus is an amateur in comparison.

We should have, should, take it seriously, yes.

We've over-reacted in the extreme.
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henry quirk wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:27 am
commonsense wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:11 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:36 pm The 'coronavirus craziness' thread was removed for some unfathomable reason--perhaps the dreaded 'c' word has beeen censored as 'offensive to China' (as it has elsewhere). Fucked up world indeed.
As for China, the numbers they are giving out to the rest of the world are hilarious. They seriously believe that in a country of nearly one and a half BILLION they only had ONE death yesterday, while the US had 2259?
It was the numbers, wasn’t it, that caused the thread to be removed. I knew Henry was up to something with all those JH reports. :wink:
All I was up to: showing how global numbers of infection and death are minor compared to, for example, the flu which kills a helluva lot more people every year than the virus, and kills a helluva lot more without nations puttin' the kibosh on economies or restricting citizen movements.

Simply: there's a whole whack of death on Earth and Coronavirus is an amateur in comparison.

We should have, should, take it seriously, yes.

We've over-reacted in the extreme.
The Spanish flu came in two waves. The first wasn't very deadly and the effect was similar to this one (and seasonal flu), killing the elderly and immune-suppressed. Then it mutated and was spread around the world by returning WW1 soldiers and it proceeded to kill mostly children and young people indiscriminately. So you can see that politicians have very difficult decisions to make because no one knows if the same thing is going to happen with this virus.
It seems to me, as a layperson, that viruses behave in certain ways because of the law of natural selection. This is why many epidemiologists are predicting a second wave in a few months and that's what's terrifying.
Apparently countries that had the strictest lockdowns recovered the fastest economically. Of course it's a completely different world now, and we also have a lot more information and technology at our disposal.
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The Spanish flu came in two waves. The first wasn't very deadly and the effect was similar to this one (and seasonal flu), killing the elderly and immune-suppressed. Then it mutated and was spread around the world by returning WW1 soldiers and it proceeded to kill mostly children and young people indiscriminately. So you can see that politicians have very difficult decisions to make because no one knows if the same thing is going to happen with this virus.
It seems to me, as a layperson, that viruses behave in certain ways because of the law of natural selection. This is why many epidemiologists are predicting a second wave in a few months and that's what's terrifying.
Apparently countries that had the strictest lockdowns recovered the fastest economically. Of course it's a completely different world now, and we also have a lot more information and technology at our disposal.


I could argue, with good reason, that blunting group/herd immunity with indiscriminate generalized isolations (instead allowing for group immunity to form by only isolating at risk folks) will lead to a more profound second wave.

But, really, I'm done with talkin' about it. I'm gearin' up for the hard times ahead.u
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henry quirk wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:09 am The Spanish flu came in two waves. The first wasn't very deadly and the effect was similar to this one (and seasonal flu), killing the elderly and immune-suppressed. Then it mutated and was spread around the world by returning WW1 soldiers and it proceeded to kill mostly children and young people indiscriminately. So you can see that politicians have very difficult decisions to make because no one knows if the same thing is going to happen with this virus.
It seems to me, as a layperson, that viruses behave in certain ways because of the law of natural selection. This is why many epidemiologists are predicting a second wave in a few months and that's what's terrifying.
Apparently countries that had the strictest lockdowns recovered the fastest economically. Of course it's a completely different world now, and we also have a lot more information and technology at our disposal.


I could argue, with good reason, that blunting group/herd immunity with indiscriminate generalized isolations (instead allowing for group immunity to form by only isolating at risk folks) will lead to a more profound second wave.

But, really, I'm done with talkin' about it. I'm gearin' up for the hard times ahead.u
You could be right. There is a logic to that.

''The fact that most of those who recovered from first-wave infections had become immune showed that it must have been the same strain of flu. This was most dramatically illustrated in Copenhagen, which escaped with a combined mortality rate of just 0.29% (0.02% in the first wave and 0.27% in the second wave) because of exposure to the less-lethal first wave. For the rest of the population, the second wave was far more deadly; the most vulnerable people were those like the soldiers in the trenches – adults who were young and fit.''

We could be putting nails in our own coffin with the current lockdowns. I had considered that. It did seem crazy to go to all this trouble for something that is harmless to most people.
Perhaps we have been trying to infect as many children and young, healthy people as possible--like old fashioned chicken pox parties.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:49 pm Reason requires a process of self reflection where a previously subjective state is magnified into an objective one. This objectivity is pattern formation. The subjective state, that of personal experience, is repeated through force of habit resulting in the identity of the observer through the manifestation of a series of actions.
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With the advent of the coronavirus comes a period of undistracted self reflection within the individual as a means of further transformation. The self, as undivided by lack of distraction, is able to reflect with a single pointed awareness towards its goal.
Nah, you got is wrong. It is not 'reason' that requires a process of self-reflection.

Rather, Philosophy-proper to facilitate survival of the individual and the species necessitate self-reflection which requires philosophizing with reason, wisdom, knowledge of self and other things and good judgment.

Effective self-reflection on the events and actions by oneself and others surrounding the coronavirus should bring one back to the inherent generic impulse, i.e.
  • DNA wise all humans are "programmed" with to survive at long as possible till the inevitable, thus with an inherent subliminal fear of death to avoid dying prematuredly.
Thus all actions by humans [majority 99%] all over the world relating to the coronavirus are driven by the above "programmed" impulse of the subliminal fear of death which is not expressed explicitly by the majority.

This is the same "programmed" impulse of the subliminal fear of death which has driven the majority to theistic religions, God and other psychological crutches.

The difference is while this inherent impulse is driving the majority to save lives for this specific deadly disease, the same impulse drove theism which at the same time enable terrible evil acts committed by theists in the name of their God.
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That’s just an impression

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Where would this forum be without impulsive posts?
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