Apologies

[Logik]

May I ask, have you ever been institutionalized for any mental health problems?

Why do you so desperately attempt to move out of the spotlight?

[Walker]

I'm ascertaining if you may be a violent, physical threat.

Because you act like it.

[Walker]

I won't put you on ignore, but I will ignore you.

You need a break, fella.

[Logik]

I'm ascertaining if you may be a violent, physical threat.

Because you act like it.

Why is that an important piece of information?

Are you saying that you would behave differently if you were in actual danger?

[Walker]

Ignore



Get some help.

[Logik]

I won't put you on ignore, but I will ignore you.

You need a break, fella.

Lets not pretend like you concerned about me, and I won't pretend I give a shit about your opinion

[Logik]

Ignore



Get some help.

So much easier to run than to introspect, eh ?

Typical egoist.

[Walker]

I'm considering contacting the moderators with this thread.

To get it on record.

You've averaged 30 postings a day.

You need to back off.

[Logik]

I'm considering contacting the moderators with this thread.

To get it on record.

Oh, please do!

Lets have an independent opinion on your behaviour.

He was once capable of discussion and was occasionally responsive to reason. Now he has become an extremist, seeing the battle against the irredeemably evil "Left" as a kind of desperate holy war that must be won at all costs or disaster will follow.

I would be concerned to hear a Muslim speak of westerners the way Walker speaks of "Leftists". With the rapid rise of right wing extremist terrorism, what I am hearing from Walker is a concern. Increasingly there will be "direct action" groups ready to exploit vulnerable people like Walker who are too consumed with hatred to think clearly and thus be capable of protecting themselves from manipulations by violent hate groups.

Here's some ironclad reasoning.
Do try and rise above personal attacks, and respond with logic and reason.

The hardest war of all is fighting against a faceless nemesis.

The process of personifying and projecting one's self-loathing onto others is incredible to watch and pity at the same time.

Moron.

[Walker]

You've averaged 30 postings a day.

You need to back off.

For your own sake.

[Logik]

You've averaged 30 postings a day.

You need to back off.

For your own sake.

The spotlight is staying right where it is, child.

You need a wake up call. There are people out there who will not tolerate your bullshit.

e.g me.

[Walker]

Are you stalking and threatening me?

[Logik]

Are you stalking and threatening me?

I thought we covered this yesterday? Are you now feigning victimhood in a lame attempt to get out of the spotlight?

P.S What's the matter, is your ego feeling "challenged". Do you need to prove something to somebody? Are you feeling.... anger? Aggravation? Frustration?

I know you're a small person, and sneaky.

If you believe that I am small then I am small. Plus, how "sneaky" can I be if you are so much brighter than me?

So the pertinent question remains: Why did you feel threatened by me?

I don't feel threatened.

Your ego must be really fragile if you feel stalked and threatened by somebody asking you for an apology.

Are you really THAT terrified of saying "I am sorry for being a dick"?

[DPMartin]

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15971&hilit=Apology+Hobbes+choice

Here’s an old thread about apologies.

Some wounded egos are probably just itching to post on it.

It's called never regret, never apologize.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15971&hilit=Apology+Hobbes+choice

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Here's a cut and paste of the first posting.

It's a good thread.

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Never regret, Never apologise.
Post by Hobbes' Choice » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:16 am

Smart people, who are mindful and aware never have to apologise. Get out of that Christian blame/shame culture, there ain't no god to punish you, so grow up.

Apologies.

When the shit hits the fan and something goes wrong apologies are empty. They can only be a response to two things: 1) an admission of guilt, or 2) an admission of a lack of maturity.
I can think of no thing, which I have done that would ever deserve an apology. Were I to apologise for something I'd be admitting that I intended to do wrong. Well I have reached an age that if I intend to do wrong, then I damn well mean it, if not then the thing I am being asked to apologise for was an unintended consequence of an act I did NOT intend. Well If I did not intend it, then why would I want to apologise. How would an apology help? What is the function of an apology? Apologies are for children. They make them reflect on unwise action; they make them feel small and vulnerable in order that the child will reflect and change his ways. For an adult, no apology ought ever to be necessary. When things happen I EXPLAIN, I never apologise.

Regret.

Regrets are much the same as guilt trips that require apologies. Things can go wrong and you make mistakes. But a "mistake" is by nature unintended. When you screw up, and if you are mature, you have acted in the best possible way given your circumstances. No one intends to screw-up. If you do then why regret your decisions? At any given moment you pays your money and you makes your choice. Why would you want to regret a choice that YOU made? If you don't like it: reflect, learn., move on! Regret is an empty emotion that serves no purpose but self indulgence. I've known people who have regretted something for decades. WHY? Do Something about it! But stop bleating. Take control of your present. Move on. TO regret, is to regret who you are. You made the choice - live with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFtGfyruroU

na, na na na, this sort of thing doesn't fly, reason why is one is always in some sort of agreement with others around ones self, from government law to household rules, and failure to meet said agreements in some sort of way that effects others with unfortunate results calls for apologies and or regret. how one handles such things may be a discussion of value but to say no apologies is to be an island, of which no man is. and if one isn't "sorry" they harmed another they agreed to not harm, doesn't belong with people in the first place.

[Walker]

na, na na na, this sort of thing doesn't fly, reason why is one is always in some sort of agreement with others around ones self, from government law to household rules, and failure to meet said agreements in some sort of way that effects others with unfortunate results calls for apologies and or regret. how one handles such things may be a discussion of value but to say no apologies is to be an island, of which no man is. and if one isn't "sorry" they harmed another they agreed to not harm, doesn't belong with people in the first place.

That's reasonable.

Thing is, there was no harm, and the demand for an apology is being used as a club.

The person demanding an apology in this case (the unbalanced one above demanding apologies), has lost perspective of time, place, and situation.



If the time in question is examined, the sequence of events leading to his hysteria is apparent.

He has self-control issues, and blames others for that.

I think he has been posting here too much, and that caused a loss of perspective.
(30 postings a day for 4 months)

I kindly suggested that he take a break, which simply produced more hysteria.

I think that after his break, he will likely feel remorse, so I said in advance of his break, no hard feelings.



The question of: Are you stalking and threatening me? ... is to get a response, for the record.

There are two possible responses to this question. Yes, or no.



If I had the authority to give him his much needed break, I would do so.