How to Achieve Non-Dualism Intellectually?

[Dontaskme]

You're just saying the obvious..aka knowledge, any fool can know knowledge.

And you are denying the obvious.

All I'm saying is that the human dna programme was not written by a human.

Well, DUH! Any fool can tell that. Most DNA was not written by a human. Evolution tells that story.

But FREE WILL allows us to:
* Override the program (STOP breathing underwater)
* Understand the program (Human genome project)
* Engineer the program ( Gene therapy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering )

HuH!!

So what?

[TimeSeeker]

The body is not interested in food. It could and would still survive if it had to live on a diet of sawdust and glue if that's what it took to survive.

And if you were wrong - that's Natural Selection at play.

[TimeSeeker]

HuH!!

So what?

So nothing. You have free will.

Your choices decide if you get to continue your genes. If you eat sawdust for a month - I imagine that would be a no.

[Dontaskme]

HuH!!

So what?

So nothing. You have free will.

There is no you to have free will, you are free will.

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[TimeSeeker]

There is no you to have free will, you are free will.

Until you eat sawdust for a month. Then you stop being a free will.

[Dontaskme]

There is no you to have free will, you are free will.

Until you eat sawdust for a month. Then you stop being a free will.

All decisions are made unconsciously..like I keep repeating to you, the conscious mind is a phantom, it doesn't exist.

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[TimeSeeker]

All decisions are made unconsciously..like I keep repeating to you, the conscious mind is a phantom, it doesn't exist.

And you can keep denying it all you want while you refuse to breathe underwater. For the first 60-120 seconds anyway.

You are fighting pretty hard to deny your free will. One might ask 'Why?'. Why do you so desperately avoid responsibility?

[Dontaskme]

All decisions are made unconsciously..like I keep repeating to you, the conscious mind is a phantom, it doesn't exist.

And you can keep denying it all you want while you refuse to breathe underwater. For the first 60-120 seconds anyway.

You are fighting pretty hard to deny your free will. One might ask 'Why?'. Why do you so desperately avoid responsibility?

Will is this free flow of energy flowing freely right now in the actual moment. No one lives in the actual moment, such an entity arises on reflection as awareness becomes aware of itself as awareness and takes responsibilty on the back of that reflection.

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[TimeSeeker]

Will is this free flow of energy flowing freely right now in the actual moment. No one lives in the actual moment, such an entity arises on reflection as awareness becomes aware of itself as awareness and takes responsibilty on the back of that reflection.

Energy is just a concept.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy

[Dontaskme]

Will is this free flow of energy flowing freely right now in the actual moment. No one lives in the actual moment, such an entity arises on reflection as awareness becomes aware of itself as awareness and takes responsibilty on the back of that reflection.

Energy is just a concept.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy

Every thing is a concept known.

What or who that knowing is...is unknown...except as conceived in this immaculate conception, the story of I

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There is only the dream.

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[TimeSeeker]

There is only the dream.

I'll let you answer yourself

HuH!!

So what?

[Dontaskme]

There is only the dream.

I'll let you answer yourself

HuH!!

So what?

Well that you would be no one answering itself.

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From self to self an eternal spring.

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[TimeSeeker]

Well that you would be no one answering itself.
From self to self an eternal spring.

That would be someone talking to themselves.

Or about themselves

[Veritas Aequitas]

There is no you to have free will, you are free will.

Until you eat sawdust for a month. Then you stop being a free will.

Why this will go on till 'the cows come home' is you did not address the critical issue 'there is no you'.

I put that false claim in perspective here;
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=25257

If you stop DAM on her track and proves her wrong then that will be the end of her bleating story.

[Dontaskme]

There is no you to have free will, you are free will.

Until you eat sawdust for a month. Then you stop being a free will.

There is no known beginning nor ending to the chooser ..a choice is known in the apparent belief there is a chooser choosing within the dream of separation, the fictional story of a chooser.

That's what free will means...intention is the rider of the will...will (am-ness) (presence)is this direct actual infinite boundless eternal freedom NOW..within which every choice is a choiceless choice, no chooser ever chose anything, it was a free choice no one made for here there is no known beginning nor ending to the chooser ...a choice is known in the concept within the dream of separation.

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