Feminist Fantasy

[FlashDangerpants]

One more time because I know you find it hard to read and reply to things people write unless you have it thrust down your throat:

These abuses by muslims are given no lenient treatment by anybody in the USA, they go to prison the same as Christians who so often murder their families over there. Why are you demanding special treatment for muslims? Is every murder of one's wife daughter or sister not equally tragic to you?

[FlashDangerpants]

Actually, we had probably better go for three is the charm:

These abuses by muslims are given no lenient treatment by anybody in the USA, they go to prison the same as Christians who so often murder their families over there. Why are you demanding special treatment for muslims? Is every murder of one's wife daughter or sister not equally tragic to you?

[Nick_A]

FDP wrote:

These abuses by muslims are given no lenient treatment by anybody in the USA, they go to prison the same as Christians who so often murder their families over there. Why are you demanding special treatment for muslims? Is every murder of one's wife daughter or sister not equally tragic to you?

The abuse of women is openly opposed and condemned by feminists in all cases accept for abuses authorized by Sharia law. Why?

[FlashDangerpants]

FDP wrote:

These abuses by muslims are given no lenient treatment by anybody in the USA, they go to prison the same as Christians who so often murder their families over there. Why are you demanding special treatment for muslims? Is every murder of one's wife daughter or sister not equally tragic to you?

The abuse of women is openly opposed and condemned by feminists in all cases accept for abuses authorized by Sharia law. Why?

It's openly opposed for those too. Your mistake is believing there is Sharia law in the USA. I can't help you to stop being a conspiracy nut who believes in that. I will merely point out again that Sharia law is incompatible with US law and Sharia offers no protection for people who commit crimes in the USA.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

FDP wrote:

These abuses by muslims are given no lenient treatment by anybody in the USA, they go to prison the same as Christians who so often murder their families over there. Why are you demanding special treatment for muslims? Is every murder of one's wife daughter or sister not equally tragic to you?

The abuse of women is openly opposed and condemned by feminists in all cases accept for abuses authorized by Sharia law. Why?

Didn't you look at my links, or did you just look at the titties? You do realise that the US is not the entire planet, don't you?

[Walker]

The abuse of women is openly opposed and condemned by feminists in all cases accept for abuses authorized by Sharia law. Why?

Because political progressive identity trumps feminist identity.

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God is life and life is champagne for man or woman to use as necessary: either to create, to preserve, or to destroy.

Where does “twist into his own image” fit into that trinity?

Here’s a fantasy portrayal of servitude.

Kill Bill Vol. 2 - Esteban Vihaio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flpxujAPNYE

[Nick_A]

Walker wrote: because political progressive identity trumps feminist identity.

God is life and life is champagne for man or woman to use as necessary: either to create, to preserve, or to destroy.

I agree but what I find both frightening and sad is that people on this thread and in the political world in general are so cold and callous that they won't admit the obvious hypocrisy. When I read these responses I shudder and say to myself: "There but for the grace of God go I."

[Immanuel Can]

Christians who so often murder their families over there.?

Oh please...I can't wait to see your source for this gem of knowledge.

[FlashDangerpants]

It is a Christian majority country and most murders happen within the family. So, I didn't expect that to be a very controversial point.

Frankly IC, I don't believe for a second that you have any intention of defending the position Nick has taken because he is a grunting halfwit and you aren't.

[Immanuel Can]

It is a Christian majority country and most murders happen within the family. So, I didn't expect that to be a very controversial point.

It should be. You made a completely statistically incorrect assumption: that Muslim and Christian belief entails the same actions, and that statistics you didn't check "must" exist. So you (inadvertently?) slandered all those poor Christians getting massacred in Syria, accusing them of being the same as the people who are killing them for being different.

You may be uncertain of the differences between Muslims and Christians. But ISIL and its sympathizers are not so confused on the point. They know whom to kill. And they kill them for being different, not for practicing the same things. That's worth thinking about, wouldn't you say?

Frankly IC, I don't believe for a second that you have any intention of defending the position Nick has taken because he is a grunting halfwit and you aren't

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Very kind of you, I'm sure...but I defend my own points, not anyone else's.

[Nick_A]

IC weote:

It should be. You made a completely statistically incorrect assumption: that Muslim and Christian belief entails the same actions, and that statistics you didn't check "must" exist. So you (inadvertently?) slandered all those poor Christians getting massacred in Syria, accusing them of being the same as the people who are killing them for being different.

You may be uncertain of the differences between Muslims and Christians. But ISIL and its sympathizers are not so confused on the point. They know whom to kill. And they kill them for being different, not for practicing the same things. That's worth thinking about, wouldn't you say?

Be veeeerrry careful. I agree with you and that could be the kiss of death. This thread has proven the power of an agenda on the cult mind. You could be making perfect sense but committing the unpardonable sin of opposing the agenda mindset. Why do you think the Holocaust and the Armenian genocide were and still are so easy to justify? Humanity is unimportant for the agenda mindset. Only the agenda is. It is difficult to believe that people can live that way but sadly they do.

[Immanuel Can]

Be veeeerrry careful. I agree with you and that could be the kiss of death.

It's incidental. We'll find something to fight about eventually, probably. But not today.

Humanity is unimportant for the agenda mindset. Only the agenda is. It is difficult to believe that people can live that way but sadly they do.

Okay, but there are also people here who are reasonable. The risk one runs when listing everybody under the "agenda mindset" is that the exceptions will not be recognized.

Some people believe in the "agenda" because they've never heard it questioned -- but once they do, they're quite sensible. Others are not aware of any "agenda" at all, or of any spiritual synchronicity they may have with it, and take a while to wake up. Others are just mouthpieces of that agenda. And some people are trolls who derive their self-image from deliberately saying contrary things on the internet for the sake of effect. And some people aren't on the "agenda" at all, but perhaps not on your side either.

I like "noble enemies," -- people who may not agree with me, but who know how to joust chivalrously. They don't get personal and insulting, but put up a vigorous, rational defense of their views. And even if sometimes these people happen, by accident, to be on the "agenda," they are there in a reasonable, conversational and entertaining way. I can accept that.

A "noble enemy" is almost as good as a "noble friend," and far, far better than an ignoble person who happens to agree with one. So the "agenda" is not all. But yeah, I admit it's a problem.

Yet it's not often what we're disagreeing about that is the show-stopper; it's how we're disagreeing. Much good comes of sincere, open conversation, but no good at all of posturing, name-calling and bluster.

[Nick_A]

IC wrote:

A "noble enemy" is almost as good as a "noble friend," and far, far better than an ignoble person who happens to agree with one. So the "agenda" is not all. But yeah, I admit it's a problem.

Yet it's not often what we're disagreeing about that is the show-stopper; it's how we're disagreeing. Much good comes of sincere, open conversation, but no good at all of posturing, name-calling and bluster.

I agree but so far there haven't been any noble enemies on this thread. It would be nice if one would show up. It is a hard position to argue especially when feminists are beginning to agree that feminist silence as it pertains to abuse of women by Sharia is hypocrisy. Walker appears right when he points out that truth is secondary to the goals of an agenda. Maybe we can start a thread on the cult mind and how it denies an open mind. But who would be honest and admit the attraction of an agenda on themselves? Not many want to experience the truth of the human condition. Most want it justified within themselves. This tendency can produce the glorified self deception leading to the cult mind.

[Arising_uk]

... This thread has proven the power of an agenda on the cult mind. ...

True, you have demonstrated that very well thanks.

[Arising_uk]

Oh please...I can't wait to see your source for this gem of knowledge.

Would you accept the censuses of the religious bent of American prisoners and then would you accept that quite a few will be murderers and that many murders are of family members?