Most Muslims are undeniably peaceful, but...

[bobevenson]

Your premise for this thread "Most Muslims are undeniably peaceful, but their lack of expressed outrage at the terrorists may indicate tacit support" sucks... and so do you.

I said "may." Can't you read English, or are you saying that conjectures suck?

What sucks, Bob, is that you single out Muslims and make it a topic when there are OBVIOUSLY so many freakin' holes in it. It's NO different than any "supposed" lack of expressed outrage by Christians for all the hateful and twisted dimensions of Christianity. There are simply so many LARGER PIECES to consider... but AS USUAL, you focus on some little crumb of a thought that you find particularly tasty. And when someone points out a larger piece to thoughtfully consider/share, you IGNORE that and move on to the next crumb. You essentially leave a trail of your slobbery crumbs everywhere! What a mess!

Jesus Christ, the Islamic Quran says non-believers should be massacred, and you bring up Christianity? Why don't you cite some comparable Biblical passages, you Muslim lover.

[Lacewing]

Jesus Christ, the Islamic Quran says non-believers should be massacred, and you bring up Christianity? Why don't you cite some comparable Biblical passages, you Muslim lover.

As has already been brought up, Bob, the Bible and Christianity have led people to believe that non-believers are unclean sinners going to hell to burn forever (that is terrorizing)... and many deranged Christians have felt totally justified in waging wars and destruction against those who think differently. (That, too, is terrorism.) There are even some nutjobs who fancy themselves as divinely inspired prophets or messengers who can speak against everyone and everything they come into contact with. That is destructive and ignorant energy... and people are bombarded with it every day! Whether you cut someone's head off or bombard people continually with your ignorance and condemnation -- the world is not better for it.

[Philosophy Explorer]

Jesus Christ, the Islamic Quran says non-believers should be massacred, and you bring up Christianity? Why don't you cite some comparable Biblical passages, you Muslim lover.

As has already been brought up, Bob, the Bible and Christianity have led people to believe that non-believers are unclean sinners going to hell to burn forever (that is terrorizing)... and many deranged Christians have felt totally justified in waging wars and destruction against those who think differently. (That, too, is terrorism.) There are even some nutjobs who fancy themselves as divinely inspired prophets or messengers who can speak against everyone and everything they come into contact with. That is destructive and ignorant energy... and people are bombarded with it every day! Whether you cut someone's head off or bombard people continually with your ignorance and condemnation -- the world is not better for it.

I can add that "divinely inspired prophets" are another form of terrorism.

PhilX

[bobevenson]

Jesus Christ, the Islamic Quran says non-believers should be massacred, and you bring up Christianity? Why don't you cite some comparable Biblical passages, you Muslim lover.

As has already been brought up, Bob, the Bible and Christianity have led people to believe that non-believers are unclean sinners going to hell to burn forever.

You're equating telling non-believers they're going to Hell to murdering non-believers??? What kind of monster are you???

[Hobbes' Choice]

their lack of expressed outrage at the terrorists may indicate tacit support.

That would account for most Christians too. Face it bitch, no body gives a fuck. People are too busy wondering what Kim Kardashians tit size is to worry too much about terrorism,
You have more chance of being struck by lightning than dying from terrorism.

"THEY" , by whom you mean all Muslims, are not responsible and have no reason to feel responsible. Where is your outrage that the USA has been pouring bombs into the ME; funding dictators; stirring up trouble; financing Israel's pogrom against Palestine; and ... etc.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Jesus Christ, the Islamic Quran says non-believers should be massacred, and you bring up Christianity? Why don't you cite some comparable Biblical passages, you Muslim lover.

Please cite!

[Arising_uk]

The pathway of evil in every society flows through an institutional grid of religious, cultural and social values. The evil that lurks in the minds of men is manifested in the collective evil of the beast. Understand the man and you cannot be deceived by his institutions. Religion and government are the most dangerous institutions, but Ouzo provides a defensive framework.

Does this mean that the good also flows through these institutions as I think you'd be hard pushed to find 'evil' in the institution of water and sewage services.

You've never actually said how 'Ouzo' defends one, apart from the useful task of inebriation.

[thedoc]

Jesus Christ, the Islamic Quran says non-believers should be massacred, and you bring up Christianity? Why don't you cite some comparable Biblical passages, you Muslim lover.

As has already been brought up, Bob, the Bible and Christianity have led people to believe that non-believers are unclean sinners going to hell to burn forever.

You're equating telling non-believers they're going to Hell to murdering non-believers??? What kind of monster are you???

Many passages in the Old Testament specifically instruct the Israelites to slaughter unbelievers who happen to occupy the lands they are going to take over.

[Obvious Leo]

Many passages in the Old Testament specifically instruct the Israelites to slaughter unbelievers who happen to occupy the lands they are going to take over.

Which is exactly what Moses' right hand man, the unconvicted war criminal Joshua, did after his troops had blasted the walls of Jericho to smithereens with their trumpets. They slew every man, woman and child in the joint and then went on a killing rampage throughout the rest of Canaan and onwards to Judea. By all accounts Yahweh was well pleased with their diligence and attention to detail in this matter. Practically the entire old testament is a tale of human sacrifice to appease the bloodlusts of a god of VENGEANCE, who is to be FEARED and OBEYED. Even the gruesome execution of Christ was turned into a story of human sacrifice which is honoured to this day in the ritualised cannibalism of the Eucharist. One could find a passage in the Christian bible to support practically any form of criminal or deviant behaviour which a psychopath could imagine, so condemning the Q'uran on the same grounds fails the test of logic.

[FlashDangerpants]

Jesus Christ, the Islamic Quran says non-believers should be massacred[/b]

No it doesn't. It says they should be taxed a little more than Muslims.

[thedoc]

Jesus Christ, the Islamic Quran says non-believers should be massacred[/b]

No it doesn't. It says they should be taxed a little more than Muslims.

There are a few places in the Koran that state that you can kill others, one of those is in the case of someone trying to physically prevent you from practicing your religion. There are others, and all have been taken out of context and corrupted to say that a Muslim can kill unbelievers.

[bobevenson]

You've never actually said how 'Ouzo' defends one, apart from the useful task of inebriation

The defense that Ouzo provides against institutional false prophets is recognizing their ploys and artifices (see "The Ouzo Prophecy"). If you ever learned to play Ouzo, you wouldn't have to ask the question.

[thedoc]

You've never actually said how 'Ouzo' defends one, apart from the useful task of inebriation

The defense that Ouzo provides against institutional false prophets is recognizing their ploys and artifices (see "The Ouzo Prophecy"). If you ever learned to play Ouzo, you wouldn't have to ask the question.

I believe that you once said that the game of Ouzo is a form of Lie'rs poker, so playing the game of Ouzo is teaching you to lie for your faith? That is very instructive. I prefer honesty, but then learning to recognize a lie is very useful, especially in reading Bob's posts.

[thedoc]

There is a verse in the Koran that states that the "People of the Book" are acceptable to Allah, and the "People of the Book" are the Jews, Christians and Muslims. So any Muslim who says that Christians or Jews are unbelievers, has not read or understood the Koran, or has been fed a corrupted version of the teachings.

[Hobbes' Choice]

There is a verse in the Koran that states that the "People of the Book" are acceptable to Allah, and the "People of the Book" are the Jews, Christians and Muslims. So any Muslim who says that Christians or Jews are unbelievers, has not read or understood the Koran, or has been fed a corrupted version of the teachings.

All "teachings" are corruptions.
1) Languages and their subtleties change in 1300 years.
2) Mohammed was illiterate
3) The Quoran is a in coherent set of homilies, and confused bits of advice with myths and fables cobbled together from a variety of sources: The Hadith, the Sudda ad nauseam.
4) Islam more than any religion takes its sources from a huge body of so-called study and traditions, and the works of "scholars"