Finally, you have clarified enough. Yes, I've often noted that death removes all the innate / acquired needs, tendencies, threats of consequence, and social regulatory structure which force me to believe that life overall or being alive is a desirable state (and that death was an undesirable "state" during that period when thought about it was possible). Once that enslaving framework is eventually gone, the absence of myself and everything else might figuratively be depicted as an unspoken rhetorical question: "So now do all those things and goals and people you were suffering over still seem important?" Free at last, free at last, of "___ is significant and must be satisfied because it or the system it is embedded in circularly vouches for itself."Bill Wiltrack wrote:...and no philosophy can help us. We are TOTAL slaves to each other and to the desires that decide to own us.
Well, if you believe the absence after death is a timeless, spaceless, universal bridge connecting experience or cognition in karma-like selectivity to yet another living body (i.e., the brain of a fetus begins by also sporting "nothingness" until it develops more fully into a sentient phase). The new being accordingly later only featuring its own memories and not that of the former life. Personally, I'd tend toward: If there's anything to generic subjectivity at all, then the provenance which brain processes manipulate to conjure extrospective and introspective manifestations might be universal, in which case "you" only seem to be in this one body because that's all that the memory and received sensory information of that brain provide awareness for. There's no experience available of you being everyone (because no single brain can output such a cognition). Accordingly, after going belly-up one would not so much "migrate" to another body as already have been there in it and others for _X_ years. That is, any universal provenance for experience is left with only the surviving brains to provide the feelings and manifestations of individual embodiment.And our slavery transcends our death Into eternity.
Just your gnu delusion as there is nothing irrational about my dislike for your thoughts as they are harmful to you and those too young to maybe know better.Bill Wiltrack wrote:.You are a slave to the inferiority that, for whatever irrational reason, you feel towards me.
Your feelings are of no interest to me so please keep them to yourself and your shrink....and I am just as uncomfortable as you are when you display the dis-ease towards me.
[/quote]hammock wrote:Finally, you have clarified enough. Yes, I've often noted that death removes all the innate / acquired needs, tendencies, threats of consequence, and social regulatory structure which force me to believe that life overall or being alive is a desirable state (and that death was an undesirable "state" during that period when thought about it was possible). Once that enslaving framework is eventually gone, the absence of myself and everything else might figuratively be depicted as an unspoken rhetorical question: "So now do all those things and goals and people you were suffering over still seem important?" Free at last, free at last, of "___ is significant and must be satisfied because it or the system it is embedded in circularly vouches for itself."Bill Wiltrack wrote:...and no philosophy can help us. We are TOTAL slaves to each other and to the desires that decide to own us.
[/quote]Well, if you believe the absence after death is a timeless, spaceless, universal bridge connecting experience or cognition in karma-like selectivity to yet another living body (i.e., the brain of a fetus begins by also sporting "nothingness" until it develops more fully into a sentient phase). The new being accordingly later only featuring its own memories and not that of the former life. Personally, I'd tend toward: If there's anything to generic subjectivity at all, then the provenance which brain processes manipulate to conjure extrospective and introspective manifestations might be universal, in which case "you" only seem to be in this one body because that's all that the memory and received sensory information of that brain provide awareness for. There's no experience available of you being everyone (because no single brain can output such a cognition). Accordingly, after going belly-up one would not so much "migrate" to another body as already have been there in it and others for _X_ years. That is, any universal provenance for experience is left with only the surviving brains to provide the feelings and manifestations of individual embodiment.And our slavery transcends our death Into eternity.