The interweb is it kosha?

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Blaggard
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The interweb is it kosha?

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Now if like me you grew up with computers, you know they are pretty interesting things to get a hold of and play with, you can tell them to do things and they do them, firing out garbage only if you programme it in, aka GIGO. Since the advent of the internet though the whole computer thing has changed, we're no longer talking to a system that could not care less about anything we do, because it is a tool and it has no ability to be sentient. The thing is though I think a lot of companies are now treating people like they are ironically a machine, they, can use to their own ends, Google, wickid, facewad, Twitt,er,umum, and all the rest of the world wide web. Now my jokey names aside I think it is dangerous to limit the internet in such a way as you use it to control people, to find out facts about them, and then to use it as a means of social control. Now I am not talking about some vast global conspiracy to keep the humans down by way o' the Reptillians, more that companies are exploiting free information to know and control far more about our lives than they should. I see the creeping insinuation of the thought police moving in all the time. Am I alone on this?

My question hence is should we feel comfortable about this ingression into what I personally thing should be the free exchange of ideas. Or should we start saying, we are not prepared to be monitored, and controlled by large corporations who may think they have the internets and the peoples best interest at heart, but are really only trying to turn it into another means to an end that has been plagued by social control since the first societies evolved. Should these people be subject to controls themselves therefore, to let freedom reign in as much as it is or can be free, or should they be allowed to monitor us to the extent that by just knowing our IP address or our mobile phone number they can track everything we ever do by knowing where we are and who and when we are talking to people, with little or no regard to privacy? Do we need to have watchers who watch the watchers? Will this become more of an issue as time goes by? Or am I Just paranoid?

Oh and I meant Kosha not Kosher which is something entirely different btw. :)
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You're just paranoid. It' alright.


The active membership has already talked about this a while ago. We're cool with it.






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...however, that still doesn't change the fact that I'm watching you.







I got your kosha right here.



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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.





You're just paranoid. It' alright.


The active membership has already talked about this a while ago. We're cool with it.


It's not paranoia. Information is power. Hitler knew that. Would you want Hitler spying on your emails? Knowing all the porn sites you frequent? Hmmm??



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I don't think you know what kosha means but hey ho Bill. Wank on.
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:It's not paranoia. Information is power. Hitler knew that. Would you want Hitler spying on your emails? Knowing all the porn sites you frequent? Hmmm??
Oh my God how did you know my entire porn collection was based on an authority figure (Hitler is of course the dream) spying through a peep hole and looking at me jack off to Right wing propaganda. Wait a minute are you the FBI?

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To get back on topic though, it's becoming unnerving the amount of people who are looking at people, and I don't mean criminals, perverts or terrorists which let's face it you should follow around; and no I don't think the big companies who follow the usual numpty around somehow makes them evil per se, just using information in ways that infringes on peoples liberties seems to me to be on the rise. There's people out there who are actually watching everyone and using such information in a way that is dubious.
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Blaggard wrote:I don't think you know what kosha means but hey ho Bill. Wank on.
It's not paranoia. Information is power. Hitler knew that. Would you want Hitler spying on your emails? Knowing all the porn sites you frequent? Hmmm??
Oh my God how did you know my entire porn collection was based on an authority figure (Hitler is of course the dream) spying through a peep hole and looking at me jack off to Right wing propaganda. Wait a minute are you the FBI?
Dammit. My response was all fucked up by that revolting link. :lol:
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Hi Bill,

Get lost you creepy idiot!

And have a nice day!
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One solution put forward by Wired decades ago was to make surveillance available to everyone and have everyone, including the watchers, surveilled.

Personally I can see us sleepwalking into 1984 but theres a more insidious threat out there I think and its a very popular one, Waki and Goggle. As Wiki makes us lazy about checking facts and Google is worse as its making "truth" an algorithm of statistical consensus.
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Arising_uk wrote:One solution put forward by Wired decades ago was to make surveillance available to everyone and have everyone, including the watchers, surveilled.

Personally I can see us sleepwalking into 1984 but theres a more insidious threat out there I think and its a very popular one, Waki and Goggle. As Wiki makes us lazy about checking facts and Google is worse as its making "truth" an algorithm of statistical consensus.
Wiki always has citations that allow you to check if the information is published in a journal which means if you use this method your facts are as reliable as a research article in a prominent recent journal. I certainly never post science information without either knowing it is credible from my own education, or checking citations in journals. I can see why Universities don't accept it though as obviously if you are studying for a degree or reading x, then you have acess to a vast library of journals and texts and shouldn't be reliant on a middle man. As for why people wont accept it as a source, this bothers me not at all it's easy enough to then quote the citations to reputable articles if they don't buy the information, and if there is no citation I'll never quote it in regards to science at least. Religion history meh who the hell cares it's all bullshit anyway. :)

Technically speaking the truth in as much as we can know it is a matter of consensus anyway although I agree Googles business funded algorithm is hardly a reputable consensus, even if the truth was about popularity I can still check more reliable sources by going down the list until I see something that is at least posted on a reputable web site or journal (rather than tinfoilhatwearingparanoiddelusionalconspiracytheorist.com), in the cases of documents the truthiness can be verified by a reliable source so wiki and google don't worry me as long as people use their common sense and don't accept that the facts or source at face value if it is not a reliable one.
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As I said in another place: when I take a dump, I close the door...not because what I do on the can is illegal, or immoral, or unethical, but simply because what I do on the can is private.

Unfortunate, then, the contents of my colon (and the expulsion of those contents) are now a matter of national security (if the Executive deems it so).

What's to be done about it?

Not a damn thing.

Practical insulation (by the individual) against the prying eye (the nature of such insulation determined by the individual) can carry a body some distance, but when nano-sized radio tags can be included in foodstuffs even idiosyncratic strategies for flyin’ under the radar become moot.

Surveilled from the inside out: coming to a grocery near you in 'five minutes', so: grow your own, folks.

As for neutral information and neutral collectors/archivers of information: two more fictions to add to the pile.

Neutrality itself is a big steaming pile of hooey.
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