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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnT2FcuZaYI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah5lBPr_iAY

Here are something terrible aspects of it, tho it might seem amuseing it's horrorfying how people will conform uncritically.

The MgE will show how people will do horrible things against their free will. Havn't read up on your leads yet.

Let me explain a consequense of group think in this cryptic way, what happend when France warned USA against the Iraq war?
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HexHammer wrote:Let me explain a consequense of group think in this cryptic way, what happend when France warned USA against the Iraq war?
Ah! I know this one. 65 million cheese eating surrender monkeys said: 'Don't do it!'
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uwot wrote:
HexHammer wrote:Let me explain a consequense of group think in this cryptic way, what happend when France warned USA against the Iraq war?
Ah! I know this one. 65 million cheese eating surrender monkeys said: 'Don't do it!'
Stop being silly. Your link describes groupthink well enough, just not in the last aspect.
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HexHammer wrote:... No, the Millgram Experiment would explain ...
I wouldn't put to much faith in this as this experiment has recently been peer-reviewed and has been found to be very wanting in many aspects of its methodology.
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Arising_uk wrote:
HexHammer wrote:... No, the Millgram Experiment would explain ...
I wouldn't put to much faith in this as this experiment has recently been peer-reviewed and has been found to be very wanting in many aspects of its methodology.
Not only that, Arising. According to http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/theory/grpthink.html
"Groupthink occurs when a homogenous highly cohesive group is so concerned with maintaining unanimity that they fail to evaluate all their alternatives and options."
In other words; someone calling themselves a scientist claims that people who think alike, sometimes think alike. It's what universities are for. It's yer usual unfalsifiable flim-flammery, you know: astrology, numerology, phrenology, scientology; in fact anything calling itself an ology that isn't really an ology. It's a facile handle on reality that some people believe gives them insight that others who think it's a load of hooey don't have.
Merry Christmas, by the way. A gin, Sir?
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uwot wrote:Not only that, Arising. According to http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/theory/grpthink.html
"Groupthink occurs when a homogenous highly cohesive group is so concerned with maintaining unanimity that they fail to evaluate all their alternatives and options."
In other words; someone calling themselves a scientist claims that people who think alike, sometimes think alike. It's what universities are for. It's yer usual unfalsifiable flim-flammery, you know: astrology, numerology, phrenology, scientology; in fact anything calling itself an ology that isn't really an ology. It's a facile handle on reality that some people believe gives them insight that others who think it's a load of hooey don't have.
Merry Christmas, by the way. A gin, Sir?
Then o wise one, tell me, what is the dangerous aspect of group think, now that you are this "mr know it all".
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HexHammer wrote:Then o wise one, tell me, what is the dangerous aspect of group think,
I have no idea.
HexHammer wrote:now that you are this "mr know it all".
I wouldn't claim to know it all, what I do know has taken years of effort. But I concede that I can be an obnoxious smartarse.
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