Electron – spin – quantum vacuum fluctuation.

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Electron – spin – quantum vacuum fluctuation.

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Electron – spin – quantum vacuum fluctuation.
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In his 1924 doctoral work Louis de Broglie wrote that every
quantum particle with energy E=M^2 is tied with wave's process
by equality: Mc^2 = hf.
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In 1925 Goudsmit and Uhlenbeck wrote ( as a hypothesis) that
electron must / can revolve around its diameter. This own electron's
hypothetical rotation was named " spin (h*=h / 2pi ) ".
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In 1928 Dirac wrote his theory which showed :
a) in nature must exist electron with negative energy: -E=Mc^2
b) the hypothetical 'spin' is real process of electron's rotation.
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My conclusion.
De Broglie wrote his equation as mathematical equality: Mc^2 = hf.
But this equation shows some real process in nature,
In this equality is hidden some real process.
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In Dirac's vacuum sea can be process when virtual particle with
negative potential energy –E=Mc^2 using its own inner spin /
impulse h* changes its condition and becomes real particle
with energy: E=h*f.
This process was called ' Quantum fluctuation': -/+ Mc^2 <==> hf.
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Socratus i wish i could understand sum of that.
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The QT is 'fishy' by two reasons:
we don't know the reference frame of QT,
we don't know the geometrical form of quantum particle.
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The problem
If electron revolves around its diameter its speed
is faster than constant speed of quantum of light ( c=1).
And there is scientific taboo: ' nothing can move faster than c=1'
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The solution
I say that is possible to see electron / quantum of light from two points of view:
a) from Earth gravity point – the speed c=1 is maximally,
b) from Vacuum point – the speed c=1 is minimally.
( then the theory of 'tachyon' can be used)
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Making more precise.
It is possible to see electron / quantum of light from two points of observetion:
a) from Earth gravity point – the speed c=1 is maximal,
b) from Vacuum point – the speed c=1 is minimal.
( then the theory of ' tachyon' can be used in the reason
to explain the high frequency of quantum particles )
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Can you do somthing on nonlocation.that a layman could unde.rstand
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It seems that the "modern" physics is unable to explain anything. It seems that a myriad of formulas and their futile combinations definitely poisoned all people seriously interested in the progress of physics. Physics has become a belief, similarly fragmented in many (protestant) uncooperative churches, incapable of vital catharsis. A new necessary understanding of space, time and movement is not coming :(
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Cerveny wrote:It seems that the "modern" physics is unable to explain anything.
It seems that a myriad of formulas and their futile combinations
definitely poisoned all people seriously interested in the progress of physics.
Physics has become a belief, similarly fragmented in many (protestant)
uncooperative churches, incapable of vital catharsis.
A new necessary understanding of space, time and movement is not coming :(
You are too pessimistic
Max Planck wrote:
"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing
its opponents and making them see the light, but rather
because its opponents eventually die, and
a new generation grows up that is familiar with it."
Therefore don't worry, a new generation will find the truth.
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Yeah .it the truth evolves.i have read about max planke .plankes constant is as much a constant as the speed of light but i dont think it gets the rcognition it deserves.he did believe in god and put his belief over well in one or two speeches.
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The simplest particle - electron has six ( 6 ) formulas
E=h*f , e^2=ah*c , +E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2 ,
In the simple atom its energy is : E=-me^4/2h*^2= -13,6eV
In interaction with vacuum electron’s energy is infinite: E= ∞
All these formulas are correlated according to
" The Law of conservation and transformation of energy"
And this law is not a simple accounting solution
of debit and credit. The sense of this law is dipper and
it says more than is usually accepted by today's physicists.
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Is that something to do with max planke then.
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socratus wrote:
Cerveny wrote:It seems that the "modern" physics is unable to explain anything.
It seems that a myriad of formulas and their futile combinations
definitely poisoned all people seriously interested in the progress of physics.
Physics has become a belief, similarly fragmented in many (protestant)
uncooperative churches, incapable of vital catharsis.
A new necessary understanding of space, time and movement is not coming :(
You are too pessimistic
Max Planck wrote:
"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing
its opponents and making them see the light, but rather
because its opponents eventually die, and
a new generation grows up that is familiar with it."
Therefore don't worry, a new generation will find the truth.
I only state that we have been waiting for some fundamental, widely accepted, change for eighty years. I fear that mankind finds itself behind its intellectual peak and it will not be able to generate integral personality willing and capable to eradicate the idea of the "empty", "homogenous", "expanding" space-time and its senseless metric more :(
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We know electron by what it does, not by what it is.
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The simplest particle - electron has six ( 6 ) formulas
E=h*f , e^2=ah*c , +E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2 ,
In the simplest atom its energy is : E=-me^4/2h*^2= -13,6eV
In interaction with vacuum electron’s energy is infinite: E= ∞
We don't know: what are interactions between these formulas ?
Therefore the situation is like to an old Indian story: what an elephant is.
One blind man touched the elephant’s foot and said elephant looks like a column
Other blind man touched the elephant’s tail and said elephant looks like a snake
The third one touched the elephant’s stomach and said elephant looks like a ball
The . . . . . . .. . .
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The electron was *touched* in different experiments from different sides
but it seems that our knowledge of electron is similar to the * blind – knowledge*
of elephant from this old Indian proverb.
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Robert Milliken, who measured a charge of electron, in his Nobel speech
( 1923) said, that he knew nothing about “ last essence of electron”.
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Comming of topic .could you give a explination of nonlocality in lay mans terms be very gratful if ya could.regs jackles
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Electron isn’t *a point*.
Electron has a geometrical form.
Electron’s geometrical form isn’t static, isn’t firm.
Electron’s geometrical form can be changed by his own inner spin.
Electron’s own inner spin can be described with three ( 3 ) formulas:
Plank: h=Et,
Einstein: h=kb,
Goudsmit – Uhlenbeck : h*=h/2pi.
All electron's physical parameters (mass, energy, charge . . etc ) are relative.
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Quantum of light, photon and electron are one and the same
particle in different conditions. Why?
Physicists think that electron interacts with another using photon.
But Russian physicist V. Rydnik wrote:
' Now take the electron. Even if its velocity is close to that
of light – 10^10 cm/s – it will have a momentum of only
about 10^-17 g cm/s. The gamma photon used for
illumination has a very short wavelength ( say, 6 10^13 cm)
and a momentum of 10^-14, which is thousands of times that
of the electron. So, when a photon hits an electron, it is like
a railway train smashing into a baby- carriage.’
/ ABC’s of quantum mechanics. By V. Rydnik. Page 98-99. /
So, electron cannot interact with photon in such way.
My opinion
The energy of photon is: E=h*f.
The energy of an electron is: E=h*f.
What is difference between photon and electron ?
Frequency makes difference between them.
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Book " Isaac Newton " by Soviet academician S. I. Vavilov:
‘ For photons with extremely high fluctuations,
. . . ., in experience was observed the remarkable
phenomenon of transformation them in electrons.
And undoubtedly, a reverse process is also possible.’
/ page 94. /
In the other words; when the frequency of electron changes
it becomes photon and vice versa.
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