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by phyllo
Wed May 27, 2026 11:55 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Fabianism
Replies: 436
Views: 22666

Re: Fabianism

WHY the assumption that the moral code of a "false religion" would NECESSARILY be false. WHY would it NECESSARILY be different in some important way.
It's false morality because in IC's world, the source is all important ... the content is not.
by phyllo
Tue May 26, 2026 11:22 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What is morality?
Replies: 36
Views: 1517

Re: What is morality?

There is a right way and a wrong way to wash dishes. But that's not morality.
by phyllo
Tue May 26, 2026 11:02 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Fabianism
Replies: 436
Views: 22666

Re: Fabianism

Ask people if god communicates with them. It's not difficult to find that it doesn't happen.

There are claims in Islam, Hinduism, any religion.

God allegedly talks to lots of mystics and prophets. Is it true? Why the contradictory messages?
by phyllo
Tue May 26, 2026 10:11 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Fabianism
Replies: 436
Views: 22666

Re: Fabianism

Is "common experience" the only avenue? No. In the first place, there's conscience. But more importantly, it's not at all difficult to conceive that a God could reveal morality propositionally...by speaking.
The overwhelming majority has never heard god speak.
by phyllo
Tue May 26, 2026 9:56 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Fabianism
Replies: 436
Views: 22666

Re: Fabianism

If god doesn't reveal morality through common experience then everybody is up the creek. The atheists will make up a wrong morality, the false religion will make up a false morality, the people who have never heard of the one true religion won't have the true morality and nobody will know which is t...
by phyllo
Tue May 26, 2026 8:49 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Fabianism
Replies: 436
Views: 22666

Re: Fabianism

Same grounds for atheism and religion.
by phyllo
Tue May 26, 2026 7:30 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Fabianism
Replies: 436
Views: 22666

Re: Fabianism

Even if all religions were false, it wouldn't help Atheism ground a single moral principle. The problem's inherent to Atheism.
The false religions would have a false morality grounded on a false god.

At least atheism isn't pretending to be based on a god.
by phyllo
Tue May 26, 2026 4:57 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Fabianism
Replies: 436
Views: 22666

Re: Fabianism

You're going to start a thread about pragmatism and almost immediately stop participating in it? :lol:
by phyllo
Tue May 26, 2026 3:59 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Fabianism
Replies: 436
Views: 22666

Re: Fabianism

Sensible and realistic ethics are not amoral.

Ethics is developed through human experience and it's implemented to make life in society better.

Although falling short of perfection, there is striving for gradual improvement.
by phyllo
Tue May 26, 2026 3:03 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Fabianism
Replies: 436
Views: 22666

Re: Fabianism

Pragmatic : dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations.

Yeah, you don't want to be sensible and realistic if you're a religious person.
by phyllo
Sun May 24, 2026 4:30 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What is morality?
Replies: 36
Views: 1517

Re: What is morality?

What is right and wrong based on?

What if we don't accept responsibility?
by phyllo
Fri May 22, 2026 10:48 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Email not working, hassles with neighbours
Replies: 4
Views: 335

Re: Email not working, hassles with neighbours

I suppose I'll have to do that if it goes on, though I'd rather not.
Your landlord is 'difficult' ?
by phyllo
Fri May 22, 2026 12:52 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Email not working, hassles with neighbours
Replies: 4
Views: 335

Re: Email not working, hassles with neighbours

Are you not renting?

A broken fence would be the landlord's problem. Both fixing it and talking to the neighbors about it.
by phyllo
Thu May 21, 2026 1:14 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Environmental Ethics -- fair share for the non-human?
Replies: 105
Views: 7370

Re: Environmental Ethics -- fair share for the non-human?

I don't know how YOU were taught evolution in school, what experiments you were exposed to. When I was teaching this I might have this as the lab lesson. In an opaque jar, place 50 white and 50 black beads to start. A student draws out a bead, his/her lab partner notes the color and rolls a die. If...
by phyllo
Wed May 20, 2026 9:46 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Environmental Ethics -- fair share for the non-human?
Replies: 105
Views: 7370

Re: Environmental Ethics -- fair share for the non-human?

Confusion about random/chance. Natural selection is STILL a process governed by chance. When I said that you had to go into more detail about "chance", you switched to using the "chance/random" wording. When I said that selection is not random, you explicitly said that it is ran...