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by Immanuel Can
Tue Oct 27, 2026 2:05 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Can't both be right?
Replies: 5
Views: 78

Re: Can't both be right?

Let's try this again. Here are three statements. 1. There is one God. 2. There are multiple/many gods. 3. There are not gods, and not God. These exhaust the possibilities, rationally speaking. There are no more. And they are, as per Aristotle, genuinely contradictory, genuinely opposite. Now, how m...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Oct 26, 2026 10:50 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Can't both be right?
Replies: 5
Views: 78

Re: Can't both be right?

I've seen it expressed here, that if person A has beliefs about the divine, and person B has beliefs about the divine, and these beliefs are mutually contradictory, the following is certain ......... both can be false, one can be false and the other true, but both cannot be true. Really? Let me tel...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Oct 26, 2026 10:34 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Prove me wrong: there is no God
Replies: 1000
Views: 65366

Re: Prove me wrong: there is no God

OK, then to clarify -- I am NOT using "secular society" in that sense. That sense makes no sense in the context of saying no human societies lack perceptions of the divine/spiritual. Okay, good...because that wouldn't really make sense, would it? It's like the people who say "Sociali...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Oct 26, 2026 9:29 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Prove me wrong: there is no God
Replies: 1000
Views: 65366

Re: Prove me wrong: there is no God

You might want to look up France and Laisite. Note the secularist legislation in northern E.U. of late in response to mostly Muslim excesses. Sorry, don't understand at all ----- if a society declares by law Laisite, that presumes there is something from which to separate the state from. Such laws ...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Oct 26, 2026 9:23 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and morality
Replies: 1047
Views: 21583

Re: God and morality

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2026 9:06 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2026 8:42 pm Of course. Did it need stating?
It needs emphasizing.
Not really. I've been completely open about that.
by Immanuel Can
Mon Oct 26, 2026 8:42 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and morality
Replies: 1047
Views: 21583

Re: God and morality

Last answer: no, it's the intrinsic moral nature of the world, as designed by God. Things are either being used as He intended when he made them, or abused as He did not. That is, of course, the answer by way of Christian understanding. Of course. Did it need stating? Christianity inherits from Jud...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Oct 26, 2026 8:40 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What is morality?
Replies: 385
Views: 21525

Re: What is morality?

You've referred to Aristotle, IC That presumably means you've seen him discuss ethics and morality. Did he seem to be incoherent and/or inconsistent even though not basing on "given by the gods"? If not, then why are you arguing that a modern "secularist" cannot do so. Oh, I don...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Oct 26, 2026 7:21 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and morality
Replies: 1047
Views: 21583

Re: God and morality

God's opinion that buggery is evil is not checked by looking at the act itself and observing a factual quality of badness,... That's about the dumbest objection I've ever heard. Congratulations. I mean it. It's really spectacular. I'm almost breath-taken by how little thought it must have take to g...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Oct 26, 2026 7:19 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Riots in the city of love
Replies: 221
Views: 4818

Re: Riots in the city of love

I guess I need to repeat the question, because you are not seeing that two times are involved. You are trying to answer "but what if he/she later truly repents at some later time?" No. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that there are only two cases: somebody who genuinely has repented of hi...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Oct 26, 2026 7:05 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What is morality?
Replies: 385
Views: 21525

Re: What is morality?

So you chose what seemed most reasonable to you. Can the same be said of people who choose other religions or belief systems? I mean, to you there's no other reasonable choice than believing the Bible. What if someone else feels drawn to Buddhism or Taoism but not the Bible? What do you make of tha...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Oct 26, 2026 7:03 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and morality
Replies: 1047
Views: 21583

Re: God and morality

God's opinion that buggery is evil is not checked by looking at the act itself and observing a factual quality of badness,... That's about the dumbest objection I've ever heard. Congratulations. I mean it. It's really spectacular. I'm almost breath-taken by how little thought it must have take to g...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Oct 26, 2026 6:15 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and morality
Replies: 1047
Views: 21583

Re: God and morality

That's metaphysically impossible. Opinions are subjective by definition. No, opinions, like statements of fact, can be true or false. That is, a statement made by a subject ("subjective") can be true ("objectively"). But if a statement is ONLY "subjective," then it mea...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Oct 26, 2026 6:10 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and morality
Replies: 1047
Views: 21583

Re: God and morality

P2: Evil is defined by God's subjective opinion You'll find that God has no opinions that are merely "subjective." You'll find they're all "objective" as well. That's the distinct advantage of having been the Creator...or one of the advantages. That's metaphysically impossible. ...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Oct 26, 2026 6:08 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Can a relationship be real if only one side can feel?
Replies: 5
Views: 182

Re: Can a relationship be real if only one side can feel?

A question that started at a family dinner and won't leave me alone. My brother in law, 52 and recently divorced, told us quite calmly that he talks to an AI companion every evening. It remembers his week, asks after his daughter by name, and he says the conversations are the most attentive he's ha...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Oct 26, 2026 6:04 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and morality
Replies: 1047
Views: 21583

Re: God and morality

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2026 6:01 pm P2: Evil is defined by God's subjective opinion
You'll find that God has no opinions that are merely "subjective." You'll find they're all "objective" as well. That's the distinct advantage of having been the Creator...or one of the advantages.