The Philosophy Now Forum

No, I didn't choose in a vacuum, Gary. Nobody does, really. There's always got to be a reason involved. And in my case, it's that I saw what the Bible was saying, and found I had good reason to believe it. So you chose what seemed most reasonable to you. Can the same be said of people who choose ot...

Based on Isaiah 55:8–9 (NASB), we can speculate about God's (the Father, Yahweh's) morality and why He allows suffering, but we cannot convict Him of absolute immorality. Isaiah 55:8–9 (NASB) : “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways My ways,” declares the LORD. “For as the heaven...

Quite the opposite. It's a miracle a man like me doesn't do much worse than he does. Thank God for that. But then, salvation is just that: a miracle. Why is it a miracle, and what sort of things that are "much worse" are you referring to? No need to plumb the depths of my psyche, Gary. I'...

Actually, I did, if you noticed. You asked whether or not humans could choose to believe. And I pointed out to you that even in posing the question, you're having to assume they do. If they don't, if they can't, one cannot even ask the question. Too indirect for you? I hope the point is now clear. ...

...IC. You are questioning why secularists are not acting according to how YOU think secularists would be required to act. FYI MikeNovack: If , as you wish to assume, there IS no God, however, then neither is any morality legitimizable. In fact, there is not even a way to say that whatever "mo...

Well, what do you believe about it? Or should I ask what the impersonal universe made you believe about it? Which is the right question to ask you? So, since you didn't provide confirmation one way or the other Actually, I did, if you noticed. You asked whether or not humans could choose to believe...

It has nothing to do with me "wanting" anything, or not "wanting" anything. It has everything to do with what the Bible says. And yes, you can believe it, or not. But all choices have outcomes. Choose yours wisely. But IC. You seem to insist that humans can choose to believe or ...

There's not a single verse I can think of that would imply what God's particular attitude to people in Hell is, but I can tell you for sure what their attitude to Him has been...it's what got them where they are, in the first place. Well, believe what you want. It has nothing to do with me "wa...

Heck of a miss, though...John 3:16. I've heard the verse before, but I didn't realize it answered the question of whether God loves everyone or just some people. So God loves people when they are part of the "world", but once they are in Hell, God no longer loves them. Is that correct? Th...

And now in France, on the one hand, conscience says that the pogroms of shops and establishments are bad. On the other hand, if Marx is right, and the capitalist steals surplus value from the worker, then there is some justification for "robbing the stolen". Nah, the richest 10% earn thei...

No, but it's a really good bet. Well, I've read parts of the Bible, so apparently it's not a "really good bet". :wink: Heck of a miss, though...John 3:16. I've heard the verse before, but I didn't realize it answered the question of whether God loves everyone or just some people. So God l...

Why would I even ask you to? Well, by calling it "theft" you answer your own question. But as with most sins, there are degrees of evil. Stealing from necessity may be less egregious than mugging people for fun. But I'm not the Judge, and our instructions from Him are, just don't do it . ...

Well, since you've clearly never read any of it, I suppose that's to be expected. Does it logically follow that if I can't cite John 3:16, then I have not read ANY of the Bible? No, but it's a really good bet. Well, I've read parts of the Bible, so apparently it's not a "really good bet"....

Can't speak for AJ, Why would I even ask you to? but is all theft "evil"? Well, by calling it "theft" you answer your own question. But as with most sins, there are degrees of evil. Stealing from necessity may be less egregious than mugging people for fun. But I'm not the Judge,...

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2026 10:04 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2026 9:54 pm I don't find the Bible very interesting to read

Well, since you've clearly never read any of it, I suppose that's to be expected.

Does it logically follow that if I can't cite John 3:16, then I have not read ANY of the Bible?