Search found 24 matches
- Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:08 am
- Forum: Applied Ethics
- Topic: David Boonin's Toxic Waste argument & Abortion
- Replies: 25
- Views: 10154
Re: David Boonin's Toxic Waste argument & Abortion
No. Because "ending well" is here analyzable. My biggest argument is that it depraves people of morality, of their abilities to see value in other humans, when you perform abortions that aren't strictly necessary. I think a baby is both a person and a human, but they live in relation to o...
- Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:48 am
- Forum: Applied Ethics
- Topic: David Boonin's Toxic Waste argument & Abortion
- Replies: 25
- Views: 10154
Re: David Boonin's Toxic Waste argument & Abortion
So how do you think this impacts on abortion? Like my Twilight Zone Button thought experiment if you cause another being with full moral value to be existentially dependent on you as far as I see, if you are consistent with other already commonly used moral precepts you owe the use of your body. No...
- Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:18 am
- Forum: Applied Ethics
- Topic: Abortion in the The Twilight Zone
- Replies: 18
- Views: 8604
Re: Abortion in the The Twilight Zone
Can you kill someone just because no one cares about this individual? No. Actually, you can...as in the case of Terry Schiavo. Here we have legal precedent that it is actually lawful to kill a human being. And popularity wasn't even an issue. Half wanted her to live and the other half wanted her to...
- Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:23 am
- Forum: Applied Ethics
- Topic: Abortion in the The Twilight Zone
- Replies: 18
- Views: 8604
Re: Abortion in the The Twilight Zone
Abortion is not related to this episode of the TZ. Push a button and a person will not be born is not the same as a person who do not know will die. The series is a reflection on things we do everyday such as support out troops in foreign countries; capital punishment; rationing of resources; greed...
- Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:54 am
- Forum: Applied Ethics
- Topic: David Boonin's Toxic Waste argument & Abortion
- Replies: 25
- Views: 10154
Re: David Boonin's Toxic Waste argument & Abortion
So holding the man accountable even if it means using his body against his will is a reasonable stance to take? There are numerous already existing situations where people's body is used against their will, for instance where you're sent to do work for the public because you did some crime. Also, t...
- Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:35 am
- Forum: Applied Ethics
- Topic: Abortion in the The Twilight Zone
- Replies: 18
- Views: 8604
Re: Abortion in the The Twilight Zone
First most abortions aren't because the mothers life is at risk. But say it was and you looked at Boonin's toxic waste argument and there was a risk the tenant would die. Would the fact that the tenant would be missed more and the infant not at all or very much less, mean that we should allow the i...
- Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:35 am
- Forum: Applied Ethics
- Topic: Abortion in the The Twilight Zone
- Replies: 18
- Views: 8604
Re: Abortion in the The Twilight Zone
Yes its not about abortion but i can play with to make it so. Also notice the guy at 9.30 asks what if a baby were to die if they push the button. It isn't a person after all. So why not? Many say abortion is ok because the foetus isn't a person, exactly the point the Post Birth Abortion paper make...
- Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:19 am
- Forum: Applied Ethics
- Topic: Abortion in the The Twilight Zone
- Replies: 18
- Views: 8604
Re: Abortion in the The Twilight Zone
Abortion is not related to this episode of the TZ. Push a button and a person will not be born is not the same as a person who do not know will die. The series is a reflection on things we do everyday such as support out troops in foreign countries; capital punishment; rationing of resources; greed...
- Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:12 am
- Forum: Applied Ethics
- Topic: Abortion in the The Twilight Zone
- Replies: 18
- Views: 8604
Re: Abortion in the The Twilight Zone
The above is somewhat more formal but I think I can distill it down. 1. Would you push the button if there was a 25% chance a stranger with no social ties could die? 2. Would you push the button if there was a 25% chance a unwated baby could die? 3. Would you push the button if there was a unwanted ...
- Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:59 am
- Forum: Applied Ethics
- Topic: David Boonin's Toxic Waste argument & Abortion
- Replies: 25
- Views: 10154
Re: David Boonin's Toxic Waste argument & Abortion
So holding the man accountable even if it means using his body against his will is a reasonable stance to take?
- Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:13 pm
- Forum: Applied Ethics
- Topic: Abortion in the The Twilight Zone
- Replies: 18
- Views: 8604
Re: Abortion in the The Twilight Zone
The extremes should be easy. Though i might be wrong If you put bodily autonomy above all else you could push the button for every choice where something would end up in your body regardless as to whether it used to be a person or not. If the individual took an extreme personhood view the even a hea...
- Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:02 pm
- Forum: Applied Ethics
- Topic: Abortion in the The Twilight Zone
- Replies: 18
- Views: 8604
Abortion in the The Twilight Zone
A abortion thought experiment based on the The Twilight Zone episode: Button, Button http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-N4fs2yolE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcbP-625 ... ure=relmfu Orginal episode saw you push a button get $200000 and someone would die; I'd like to run through some variations on ...
- Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:42 am
- Forum: Applied Ethics
- Topic: Abortion
- Replies: 106
- Views: 34569
Re: Abortion
While we are talking about philosophy and TV shows and movies, I'd like to do a Twlight Zone thread based on the Button Button episode and link it to abortion. A new thread? Any takers? I don't know the episode can you link it? Wait... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-N4fs2yolE http://www.youtube.c...
- Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:15 am
- Forum: Applied Ethics
- Topic: David Boonin's Toxic Waste argument & Abortion
- Replies: 25
- Views: 10154
Re: David Boonin's Toxic Waste argument & Abortion
not read it, but your short summary sounds reasonable enough. The problem of abortion is of course that people often have a hard time treating foetuses as "people", or what you call "moral entity". To me a foetus is a person, but to others it just doesn't live up to the definiti...
- Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:23 am
- Forum: Applied Ethics
- Topic: Abortion
- Replies: 106
- Views: 34569
Re: Abortion
some threads never end do they? I usually retreat from the chaos of thread after it reaches 5 pages. It just becomes a mess to try and catch up with things and sort out all the silly stuff. Yeah - considering the content of my last post and comparing it to the title - er..... The phrase lost the th...