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Well, if you allow groups to vote as groups, then we're talking about quite a different political arrangement than simple democracy -- something indirect and collective, not "democratic." In Israel, last time I checked, I think there were about 8 parties. This is one advantage of a two-pa...

But maybe, in practice, what we need is the relation "better than" as in "A is better than B". This might be sufficient to our needs and let us duck difficult issues around the good/best. Those issues clearer once we start with"better than" IS there a "best"? ...

So long as there are (at least) two distinct parties, Yes I added the "at least" -- pardon me if that was not an accidental omission on your part. Later you made clear you were implying no such limitation) IC, how can you speak of a "party" and at the same time claim not to unde...

IC when we define "something" (attach a term to this "something") we have to agree about the existence of the "something". If we are talking about two different somethings, naturally our definitions clash. If you really think you are ready to return to socialism (I thin...

I do understand why the conversation is now focused on cats, with the intention of going back to socialism. But it's still funny. All this gymnastics when it all likely comes down to how the two groups like things to be. You get get it, but I don't think IC is yet getting WHY I am mapping the defin...

Cats, because presumably you do not have the same emotional involvement. I don't have any emotional involvement. But I know how to define "cat." If I didn't, I couldn't even find one. Just like you don't know what a "Socialist" is. Let's see -------- L. pardinus has been extinct...

NOBODY (in a democracy) gets to decide what interests are "legitimate" or not. NOBODY. Then "group" is entirely irrelevant. It's the individuals who have votes, and they are left free to vote in or out of any "group" they may choose. The result will be entirely determi...

Cats, because presumably you do not have the same emotional involvement. If you cannot see this is the SAME logical issue, there is no point talking about my definition of socialism. You are defining "cats" to mean "domestic cats". Your argument is sort of like: a) There are more...

And who would be the one to decide which "groups" should be formed, and which "interests" would be legitimate to be considered seriously, and which would be excluded? It sounds like a rather undemocratic procedure, actually...giving groups a stake, but denying that any individua...

There's very much a point. You've been critical of my definition, which certainly implies you have a different one -- presumably one you believe is better in some way. I'd just like to know what it is, because your belief is obviously that your definition is NOT the same as mine. No, let's stick to...

That doesn't really solve the majority problem. It just means that more people are deprived of their REAL choice, and forced to choose between two people or parties they DIDN'T really want in the first place...hardly a solution. THAT problem is not solvable. There is little reason ton to suppose th...

The American and Zionist Israeli America has the most powerful, most thorough propaganda machine in the world. American citizens have been subject to it for so long that it is a wonder anyone escapes it. This belongs in political. It is also a misunderstanding WHY some interest groups appear to hav...

Only one of us really should be answering. I wonder why you can't...Are you ashamed of your definition, or just devoid of one? It has been made perfectly clear. To use definition of "cat" as an example, you think you are defining a term that represents all breeds of a certain domestic ani...

But they also are much more the whole reason the business exists, and can offer a wage to the worker. All the worker has to do is decide if he regards the compensation offered as adequate to his own education, skills and interests...and if it is, he signs on. If he doesn't, he signs something else,...

As you know, there are eight cups prescribed. Even over an all-night program, on very little food one must pace oneself very carefully. Well ..... there are FOUR cups prescribed (you are allowed more). Nor does it have to be a cloying sweet one like Manishevitz. The very little food surprises me. T...