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by agora
Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:58 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Can we say that the lyrics to this song were written with a Neoplatonic philosophy?
Replies: 3
Views: 76

Can we say that the lyrics to this song were written with a Neoplatonic philosophy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmg3SfSpQYc Lan (you hear me!) Bana sen gerek, şu küslüğü bırak Gel konuşalım ordan burdan Bahçemin deli, ey yaman gülü Feda uğruna, yansın bu orman It's you I need, leave this sullenness (silence). Come, let's talk of this and that. O, the wild, fierce rose of my gar...
by agora
Thu Jul 24, 2025 8:51 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The materialist mindset of today, which says Plato is talking nonsense, and the mindset that executed Hypatia
Replies: 6
Views: 107

Re: The materialist mindset of today, which says Plato is talking nonsense, and the mindset that executed Hypatia

That's an irrelevant and manipulative question. It has no bearing on our discussion and implies something untrue.
by agora
Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:57 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The materialist mindset of today, which says Plato is talking nonsense, and the mindset that executed Hypatia
Replies: 6
Views: 107

Re: The materialist mindset of today, which says Plato is talking nonsense, and the mindset that executed Hypatia

Here's a more interesting question: Are these two mindsets really two different faces of the Demiurge, or is it that one (religious fanaticism) is the direct work of the Demiurge, while the other (materialism), which arose as a reaction against that first fanaticism, has, by going to an extreme, tra...
by agora
Fri Jun 27, 2025 6:56 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The materialist mindset of today, which says Plato is talking nonsense, and the mindset that executed Hypatia
Replies: 6
Views: 107

The materialist mindset of today, which says Plato is talking nonsense, and the mindset that executed Hypatia

Can we say that the materialist mindset of today, which says Plato is talking nonsense, and the mindset that executed Hypatia serve the same darkness, the Demiurge? The Answer of Gemini PRO: Elbette, bu detaylı ve katmanlı felsefi analizin İngilizce çevirisi aşağıdadır: This is a provocative questi...
by agora
Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:42 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: What if the Forms were actually an emanation from a single, higher deity?
Replies: 8
Views: 146

What if the Forms were actually an emanation from a single, higher deity?

What if the Forms were actually an emanation from a single, higher deity? Is it possible that this was Plato's secret belief, one he couldn't voice for fear it wouldn't be accepted? The answer of Gemini Pro: This is an extremely intelligent hypothesis that raises a very serious and profound topic o...
by agora
Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:59 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: In this sentence, in what sense is the word enterprise used?
Replies: 14
Views: 826

Re: In this sentence, in what sense is the word enterprise used?

"Admiring the enterprise, aspiring to it, and even tolerating it, are themselves moral stances. They can themselves flourish or wither at different times, depending on how much we like what we see in the mirror. ... “In this sentence, in what sense is the word enterprise used?” • Is it in the ...
by agora
Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:36 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Haven’t those who reject morality just because of its religious roots ended up constructing another belief system
Replies: 412
Views: 7010

Re: Haven’t those who reject morality just because of its religious roots ended up constructing another belief system

@Ben JS; you wrote: The needs of people are not mystical. That we have preferences is not mystical. Codes of conduct enabling effective cooperation is not mystical. My answer: Just think about Newton for a moment: The man discovered the laws of motion, and at the same time, he was trying to interpre...
by agora
Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:06 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Haven’t those who reject morality just because of its religious roots ended up constructing another belief system
Replies: 412
Views: 7010

Re: Haven’t those who reject morality just because of its religious roots ended up constructing another belief system

Knowing that people like you exist has brought me comfort. You’ve reminded me that I’m not alone in my thoughts. (I live in Turkey.) I guess this stuff is more controversial over there. Exactly. There’s little space here for discussing these things openly — people either cling to dogma or dismiss p...
by agora
Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:34 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Haven’t those who reject morality just because of its religious roots ended up constructing another belief system
Replies: 412
Views: 7010

Re: Haven’t those who reject morality just because of its religious roots ended up constructing another belief system

Knowing that people like you exist has brought me comfort. You’ve reminded me that I’m not alone in my thoughts. (I live in Turkey.)
by agora
Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:03 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Haven’t those who reject morality just because of its religious roots ended up constructing another belief system
Replies: 412
Views: 7010

Re: Haven’t those who reject morality just because of its religious roots ended up constructing another belief system

You said that you strongly reject the idea that the good must be God, or that morality is necessarily rooted in religion — just like the Gospel of Philip does when it criticizes the creator god. (The God of the Bible/Demiurge, not Monad)
by agora
Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:50 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Haven’t those who reject morality just because of its religious roots ended up constructing another belief system
Replies: 412
Views: 7010

Re: Haven’t those who reject morality just because of its religious roots ended up constructing another belief system

From what I gather, you’re strongly challenging the idea that whatever God does must be good—no matter how horrific it may be, like killing babies. I guess you’re referring to the kind of god Gnostics viewed as false. Based on what I’ve read in the apocryphal texts—especially the Gospel of Philip—it...
by agora
Fri Apr 04, 2025 7:46 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Haven’t those who reject morality just because of its religious roots ended up constructing another belief system
Replies: 412
Views: 7010

Haven’t those who reject morality just because of its religious roots ended up constructing another belief system

Haven’t those who reject morality just because of its religious roots ended up constructing another belief system — under the name of ethics — which might itself have mystical foundations? For example, we can see nearly the same values embraced by Plato also present in Gnosticism. The Demiurge turns...
by agora
Tue Apr 01, 2025 7:58 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: In this sentence, in what sense is the word enterprise used?
Replies: 14
Views: 826

Re: In this sentence, in what sense is the word enterprise used?

Here is the previous paragraph: Philosophy is certainly not alone in its engagement with the ethical climate. But its reflections contain a distinctive ambition. The ambition is to understand the springs of motivation, reason, and feeling that move us. It is to understand the networks of rules or 'n...