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by Rational ethicist
Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:48 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Real universal rights
Replies: 136
Views: 8132

Re: Real universal rights

You remind me of a strange guy I met in a Belgian city, a weird artist who claimed to have invented a perpetuum mobile. He asked people on the street, like me, "what is energy?" As a physicist, I responded: "a property that is conserved in universes that have time translation symmetr...
by Rational ethicist
Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:39 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Real universal rights
Replies: 136
Views: 8132

Re: Real universal rights

2. 'your' statement, 'I am NOT following', ONLY, PROVES IRREFUTABLY that 'you' do NOT have ANY interest AT ALL in LEARNING ANY 'thing' more NOR further, in regards to what I wrote and said above there. WHY, 'not necessarily', EXACTLY? I don't see how it follows, and I can easily imagine counter exa...
by Rational ethicist
Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:25 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Real universal rights
Replies: 136
Views: 8132

Re: Real universal rights

Anyway, we are on a philosophy discussion forum, so that means we have to define philosophy first, before we can move on? You start: what is philosophy? Why start there? Don't you have to define "define" first? What's a definition? What is a question? What is "why"? what is &quo...
by Rational ethicist
Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:47 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Real universal rights
Replies: 136
Views: 8132

Re: Real universal rights

BUT, reading what "others" have written about the definition or meaning of a word, will NEVER REVEAL what 'you' ACTUALLY MEAN when 'you' USE that word. I suggest doing the following. Assume the speaker uses one of the most common definitions of the word, and when the speaker then says som...
by Rational ethicist
Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:05 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Real universal rights
Replies: 136
Views: 8132

Re: Real universal rights

So, you could NEVER logically say NOR prove that what "another" says or claims is wrong nor false about 'ethics', as long as what they say or claim about 'ethics' is done under sub-section titled 'Ethical theory', right? no. I'm not following. Here is ANOTHER EXAMPLE of WHERE and WHEN one...
by Rational ethicist
Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:42 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Real universal rights
Replies: 136
Views: 8132

Re: Real universal rights

But the definition is not important when you suggest a definition and I simply copy paste that definition. Go ahead, pick your definitions of 'philosophy', 'morality' and 'ethics', and I will simply agree with them, and then we can move on to the real discussion about universal rights. If you defin...
by Rational ethicist
Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:35 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Real universal rights
Replies: 136
Views: 8132

Re: Real universal rights

Yes, where necessary I demand it because it is very critical, otherwise we will be talking pass each other and waiting for the cows to come home, note; What is Philosophy? https://forum.philosophynow.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=28792 I'm pretty sure that if you didn't write that discussion topic ab...
by Rational ethicist
Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:38 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Real universal rights
Replies: 136
Views: 8132

Re: Real universal rights

But I found it weird to ask for a definition of ethics in a discussion on a forum titled "Ethical theory". I don't see the added value of defining ethics here. This is very immature thinking especially for discussions within philosophy. Did you define philosophy first, at the start of eve...
by Rational ethicist
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:53 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Real universal rights
Replies: 136
Views: 8132

Re: Real universal rights

So, you could NEVER logically say NOR prove that what "another" says or claims is wrong nor false about 'ethics', as long as what they say or claim about 'ethics' is done under sub-section titled 'Ethical theory', right? no. I'm not following. Anyway, we are on a philosophy discussion for...
by Rational ethicist
Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:45 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Real universal rights
Replies: 136
Views: 8132

Re: Real universal rights

And, considering that I was replying to what you wrote in regards to: It seems rather arrogant of us -human beings- to think that we are entitled to bestow rights on anything other than ourselves. I think it would be more appropriate to impose responsibilities on ourselves in respect of how we beha...
by Rational ethicist
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:22 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Real universal rights
Replies: 136
Views: 8132

Re: Real universal rights

This arbitrary insistence on yor part that arbitrariness is the most important principle in ethics does nothing at all for me. And why should it? You think that your opinion about my insistence of the anti-arbitrariness principle is important? Well, let me arbitrarily exclude your opinion and say i...
by Rational ethicist
Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:53 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Real universal rights
Replies: 136
Views: 8132

Re: Real universal rights

If someone offer me a definition of unwanted that says.... "the condition that something cannot be consistently wanted by at least one person who has subjective evaluations, value judgments or preferences that have a subjective strength" and I'm afraid that's a hard no. Why a no? It's jus...
by Rational ethicist
Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:43 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Real universal rights
Replies: 136
Views: 8132

Re: Real universal rights

And no, my choice is not arbitrary. then tell me what selection rule did you use to select that one distinction? Any such selection rule would be chosen from among all the other possible rules arbitrarily, surely? Yes, the choice of selection rule would be arbitrary, if you did not use a meta selec...
by Rational ethicist
Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:16 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Real universal rights
Replies: 136
Views: 8132

Re: Real universal rights

unwanted arbitrariness Everything else here is just bait to introduce that slice of weirdness, right? Why do you kee going on about this unwanted arbitrariness that's tautologically impossible for anyone want? I think the idea to avoid unwanted arbitrariness is the very most important principle in ...
by Rational ethicist
Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:50 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Real universal rights
Replies: 136
Views: 8132

Re: Real universal rights

It is a prerequisite of good communication to define the meanings of the terms one use But I found it weird to ask for a definition of ethics in a discussion on a forum titled "Ethical theory". I don't see the added value of defining ethics here. If you define 'Morality' as what agents sh...