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1. If it is relatively false under certain contexts, ie "all is relative", then under said contexts not all is relative therefore absolutes exist. No. If it is said that it is relatively false under certain contexts then this statement again is relative. So all is relative and saying &quo...

Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:02 am

stevie wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:01 am It's relative to your conceptual framing in the context of the concept "ALL".

My conceptual framing in the context of the concep ALL is part of ALL.

Relatively yes and relatively no.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:00 am

stevie wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:59 am "ALL is relative" is a relative statement about relative "ALL".

What is ALL relative to?

It's relative to your conceptual framing in the context of the concept "ALL".

Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:55 am

stevie wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:53 am "ALL" is relative as is the statement "all is relative".

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ALL is relative is an absolute statement about relativity.

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"ALL is relative" is a relative statement about relative "ALL".

Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:51 am

stevie wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:49 am No, it's relative, too. As is this contradiction of mine.

ALL is relative accounts for your contradiction.

Again. Keyword "ALL".

Q.E.D absolute statement.

"ALL" is relative as is the statement "all is relative".

Oh my. Now you're trying to establish a metaphysical absolute truth when all is relative :roll: "ALL is relative." is an absolute statement. Key word "ALL". No, it's relative, too. As is this contradiction of mine. If you make a statement about "all" then any subsequen...

If all is relative, including this statement being relative, then the statement is false under certain contexts therefore not all is relative. No, it is only "relatively false" under certain contexts. It is just that "relatively true" and "relatively false" are not abs...

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Skepdick wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:29 pm

stevie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:28 pm I don't mind any way you prefer to see "it".

I wouldn't mind even if you did mind.

Perfect.

Going by convention, yes, the depicited appears to be a goat. So you think it's a goat then. I am able to think about it in line with conventions. Glad we could navigate the unnecessarily convoluted distinction between thinking it's a goat, and it appearing to be a goat. Whatever you are glad about...