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- Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:47 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Hedonism & Morality
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Re: Hedonism & Morality
VA actually behaves a lot like Peter Holmes. The difference is that VA is 100% sure that he's right, and Peter is 100% sure that you're wrong. Clarification, please. Which 'you' do you think I'm 100% sure is wrong? IWP? You (CIN)? Or just everyone else? Me, certainly. That was clear from your attit...
- Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:25 am
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: What could make morality objective?
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Re: What could make morality objective?
Waste of time.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:15 amThat is what happened when the intellect go loopy like a broken record or damaged bot.Peter Holmes wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:08 amWaste of time.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:04 am
I sense there are fears in learning the truths of reality.
- Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:08 am
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: What could make morality objective?
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Re: What could make morality objective?
Waste of time.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:04 amI sense there are fears in learning the truths of reality.Peter Holmes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 3:23 pmWaste of time.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 8:43 am
It is very valid and sound to ask?
Giving Up Your Philosophical Realism, What is there to Lose?
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- Sun Nov 10, 2024 3:23 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: What could make morality objective?
- Replies: 10716
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Re: What could make morality objective?
It is none of your business with what I post here nor that of others. There is no official obligation, but merely a principle of 'supply and demand' and mutual interests based on free will. Cheap escape route? I stated the above as statements and not as 'argument' so there is no issue of deduction ...
- Sun Nov 10, 2024 8:24 am
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: What could make morality objective?
- Replies: 10716
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Re: What could make morality objective?
It is obvious the statements above are valid and practical. Okay, so you really don't know what deductive validity is. Your premise is false, so the argument is unsound. But even if the premise were true, the conclusion doesn't follow. You're wasting your own and everyone else's time here. It is no...
- Sun Nov 10, 2024 8:09 am
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: What could make morality objective?
- Replies: 10716
- Views: 1469411
Re: What could make morality objective?
How do you prove [demonstrate, justify] there is a reality that is absolutely independent from humans? i.e. it exists regardless of whether there are humans or not. Consider the following argument. Premise: We can't prove the existence of a reality absolutely independent from humans. Conclusion: Th...
- Sat Nov 09, 2024 11:58 am
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: What could make morality objective?
- Replies: 10716
- Views: 1469411
Re: What could make morality objective?
The problem is the whole of natural science [gold standard] by its default cannot confirm anything absolutely. Therefore it does not follow that relative natural science can confirm your realists' absolutely human independent reality . You have a fallacy of equivocation here. Get it? Nonsense. The ...
- Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:47 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Hedonism & Morality
- Replies: 93
- Views: 14887
Re: Hedonism & Morality
VA actually behaves a lot like Peter Holmes. The difference is that VA is 100% sure that he's right, and Peter is 100% sure that you're wrong. Clarification, please. Which 'you' do you think I'm 100% sure is wrong? IWP? You (CIN)? Or just everyone else? And anyway, certainty and doubt are frames of...
- Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:55 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: What could make morality objective?
- Replies: 10716
- Views: 1469411
Re: What could make morality objective?
You are not doing science per se but adopting a philosophical position [philosophical realism] that is immature in insisting there is an absolutely human independent reality out there and in your body. Before there were humans, there was an absolutely human independent reality. And the whole of nat...
- Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:17 am
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: What could make morality objective?
- Replies: 10716
- Views: 1469411
Re: What could make morality objective?
You are not doing science per se but adopting a philosophical position [philosophical realism] that is immature in insisting there is an absolutely human independent reality out there and in your body. Before there were humans, there was an absolutely human independent reality. And the whole of nat...
- Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:32 am
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: What could make morality objective?
- Replies: 10716
- Views: 1469411
Re: What could make morality objective?
According to Popper a scientific realist , scientific truths at best are merely 'polished conjectures'. So where is the real thing in science? The only way is you must speculate and assumed there is a real thing beyond scientific what is confirmed by scientific justification. Popper didn't argue th...
- Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:31 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: What could make morality objective?
- Replies: 10716
- Views: 1469411
Re: What could make morality objective?
There is no need at all to speculate there is something real beyond [transcendental] what science confirmed as scientifically real. There is no need at all to speculate that there is not something real that the natural sciences investigate. Such speculation is irrational. Are you aware of the signi...
- Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:23 am
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: What could make morality objective?
- Replies: 10716
- Views: 1469411
Re: What could make morality objective?
PH: You are still merely repeating the claim that reality is 'contingent upon the human conditions' - which is false. Your claim that reality 'emerged' and 'is realised' prior to its being perceived, known and described by humans is, to repeat, banal. Of course it did. The universe existed long bef...
- Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:01 am
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Hedonism & Morality
- Replies: 93
- Views: 14887
Re: Hedonism & Morality
Even if we could objectively quantify pleasure, pain, happiness, unhappiness, and so on - even if there could be scalar measurements of these things - none of this would entail moral conclusions.
- Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:29 am
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: What could make morality objective?
- Replies: 10716
- Views: 1469411
Re: What could make morality objective?
Your revised conclusion does nothing to sort out the problem. You are still merely repeating the claim that reality is 'contingent upon the human conditions' - which is false. For the record, here's your claim: Premise: Reality emerged and is realized [contingent upon human conditions] prior to bei...