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by commonsense
Wed Jul 08, 2026 2:00 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Prove me wrong: there is no God
Replies: 323
Views: 19759

Re: Prove me wrong: there is no God

Sorry...I'm not seeing an answer to my questions. Just an ad hominem , with an attempt to escape. Let me ask you again, and most pointedly: is Israel "chosen"? You said Israel, but do you mean Israel or the Jewish people or the Jewish religion? It won't matter. Because "chosen" ...
by commonsense
Mon Jul 06, 2026 10:00 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Prove me wrong: there is no God
Replies: 323
Views: 19759

Re: Prove me wrong: there is no God

It is impossible to prove anything... Sorry...I'm not seeing an answer to my questions. Just an ad hominem , with an attempt to escape. Let me ask you again, and most pointedly: is Israel "chosen"? You said Israel, but do you mean Israel or the Jewish people or the Jewish religion? It is ...
by commonsense
Mon Jul 06, 2026 9:52 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Prove me wrong: there is no God
Replies: 323
Views: 19759

Re: Prove me wrong: there is no God

I can't see why Pantheism doesn't satisfy the "creationism" model. Nobody said it didn't "satisfy" some "creation model". I just said it wasn't the real God. That's quite a different claim. Understood that you believe this. But then what exactly would be meant by "...
by commonsense
Mon Jul 06, 2026 9:46 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Prove me wrong: there is no God
Replies: 323
Views: 19759

Re: Prove me wrong: there is no God

Laws of nature are revisable. The formulations of scientific laws are being refined, but the Regularity of nature remain unchanged, of course. You don't understand the definition of "miracle." A "miracle" is, by definition, a divine intervention that produces something contrary ...
by commonsense
Sun Jul 05, 2026 2:22 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Prove me wrong: there is no God
Replies: 323
Views: 19759

Re: Prove me wrong: there is no God

For from the creation of the world His invisible qualities, both His eternal power and divinity, are clearly seen, being understood by the things made, for them to be without excuse. His qualities are both invisible and clearly seen. That's religion. :lol: Seen things are not the seeing. But are cl...
by commonsense
Sun Jul 05, 2026 2:18 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Prove me wrong: there is no God
Replies: 323
Views: 19759

Re: Prove me wrong: there is no God

Fairy wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2026 7:11 am For from the creation of the world His invisible qualities, both His eternal power and divinity, are clearly seen, being understood by the things made, for them to be without excuse.

Disprove what is seen is not there, disprove there is no thing seen.
This is just high-level word salad.
by commonsense
Sun Jul 05, 2026 2:17 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Prove me wrong: there is no God
Replies: 323
Views: 19759

Re: Prove me wrong: there is no God

You believe in a hands-off God who started the machine and who lets it run. Whether you believe that don't, the argument "creation implies a creator" gets you no farther than that. Actually it does get you farther...much farther. For the important question that it raises is WHAT ABOUT CRE...
by commonsense
Sun Jul 05, 2026 2:07 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Prove me wrong: there is no God
Replies: 323
Views: 19759

Re: Prove me wrong: there is no God

For from the creation of the world His invisible qualities, both His eternal power and divinity, are clearly seen, being understood by the things made, for them to be without excuse. Disprove what is seen is not there, disprove there is no thing seen. Look at the topic question again. The challenge...
by commonsense
Sun Jul 05, 2026 2:01 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Prove me wrong: there is no God
Replies: 323
Views: 19759

Re: Prove me wrong: there is no God

I’m agnostic. In my view, God must be benevolent, omniscient and omnipotent. Children with cancer make me believe that God is not those things. Therefore He/She is not God. No? God is not in his created finite things. Created finite things live and move and exist in him. “For they exchanged the tru...
by commonsense
Fri Jul 03, 2026 6:30 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Prove me wrong: there is no God
Replies: 323
Views: 19759

Re: Prove me wrong: there is no God

One of the ways that we know that God exists is because we cannot replicate what God has done. The undoable and the incomprehensible are attributed to God. God is the explanation that explains nothing. But "God did it" feels better than "I don't know". As to the undoable point, ...
by commonsense
Thu Jul 02, 2026 8:31 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Prove me wrong: there is no God
Replies: 323
Views: 19759

Re: Prove me wrong: there is no God

Let me know how that all strikes you. We can go a further step in that thinking, but only if I'm clear so far, and if you're content with it. It strikes me as very well thought out. I agree that it would be better to live in accordance with God’s wishes than to seek the protection of a Satan. But h...
by commonsense
Tue Jun 30, 2026 8:08 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: IC please clarify for us
Replies: 507
Views: 24553

Re: IC please clarify for us

"Could be"? You "could" go with the story that the moon is made out of blue cheese. But why should you? You need a better reason to believe. Says the guy who believes the talking snake story. Well, let's see. So far, we have no advance from "science" on that. The searc...
by commonsense
Tue Jun 30, 2026 1:36 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Prove me wrong: there is no God
Replies: 323
Views: 19759

Re: Prove me wrong: there is no God

Let me know how that all strikes you. We can go a further step in that thinking, but only if I'm clear so far, and if you're content with it. It strikes me as very well thought out. I agree that it would be better to live in accordance with God’s wishes than to seek the protection of a Satan. But h...
by commonsense
Tue Jun 30, 2026 1:08 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Prove me wrong: there is no God
Replies: 323
Views: 19759

Re: Prove me wrong: there is no God

I’m agnostic. In my view, God must be benevolent, omniscient and omnipotent. Children with cancer make me believe that God is not those things. Therefore He/She is not God. No? Let's go back to here. I simply can;t understand the juxtaposition, "I am agnostic" and "God must be X, Y ,...
by commonsense
Tue Jun 30, 2026 1:02 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Prove me wrong: there is no God
Replies: 323
Views: 19759

Re: Prove me wrong: there is no God

I think you need to read my post a bit more carefully. I think you need to answer my question. Seriously. Did you try to read my post more carefully? I think you are wrong about what I need to do and not good at picking up sarcasm/parody. I'll add some formatting to help. This is a great hypothesis...