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@uwot I've improved it: A DOUBLE DICHOTOMY PROOF OF GOD 1) A metaphysical dichotomy between the set of all possible states of existence and no states of existence proves that the set of all possible states of existence happens to be the case metaphysically, because our universe is real. 2) A metaphy...

@uwot

It doesn't matter which version. The point is that a multiverse would mean that in actuality more than one state of existence is real. That supports my metaphysical dichotomy.

@HexHammer. It is a proof. Read #2. Do you believe a multiverse is possible?

@mickthinks

No. A metaphysical dichotomy is not about reality. It is a metaphysical proof. The constraint is about reality. Read #2.

@uwot

If you believe a multiverse is possible, then you should understand my proof.

@uwot

A metaphysical dichotomy is not a statement of reality. It can't be falsified by reality.

Rather, I think your beef is with #2.

However, then let me ask you this - can a multiverse be real?

THE DOUBLE DICHOTOMY PROOF OF GOD 1) A metaphysical dichotomy between the set of all possible all inclusive states of existence and no states of existence proves that no states of existence cannot be the case, because our universe is real. 2) A metaphysical dichotomy between the set of all possible...

@Blaggard You are right that true nothingness (TN) is not actualized. You are also right that the actualization of ALL (TE) is nothing like reality. Where you are wrong is in ascribing lack of meaning to these concepts. You no doubt agree that "stuff" is actualized in reality. Therefore, h...

@HexHammer

Consider my proof an update of Plato's Plenitude. Now, go read about Plenitude.

@HexHammer.

Sorry, several people now have understood my proof. You assumed I was referring to this site. I'm not. Try a bit harder, you may get it. Google Plato's Plenitude. That might help with your understanding.

@mickthinks

I would like to hear HexHammer explain how science explains why stuff even exists to begin with? LOL!

Ohhhh.........the great flaw of scientism! How dare I point it out!

@HexHammer

Nope. Other people also understand the logic of my proof - you not being one of them.

@HexHammer

Thinking of things that only exist in your mind is the basis of the thought experiment. The thought experiment or hypothetical is a valid way of attempting to discern truths. Philosophers, scientists and lawyers use thought experiments all the time.

@Wyman. You are apparently having problems with comprehending true nothingness. Try insisting in your mind that nothing exists - no God, no man, no Earth, no matter, no energy, no space, no time, no quantum or Higgs field, no particles, no void, no empty space, and then insist in your mind that this...

@Wyman. We both agree that change does not necessarily result in something ceasing to be. Look at it this way. If at the end of the universe there is this lonely photon out in the utter emptiness of space with no friends and no chance of meeting new friends, what happens to the lonely photon? Does t...